Are we sure that’s Kevin? It might be a ringer.
**dumping snowballs down your collar for that one**
BEEF CAKE!!! 😀
Yah finally! It WAS worth the wait… mmmmmmmm.
DITTO!! its about time us girls got some eye candy!!
OHHHHH YAAA YUMMMY GO KEVINNN…LUCKY MONICA GIRL
deck the halls with balls of kevin (fa la la la laaa, la laa, la laaaa)
geeee, I just dicovered that your signature looks like a sperm…
Was that strictly necessary?
Now that’s egalitarianism!
Wow, Merry Christmas to us!
Ah, poor Kevin. The things a guy has to do for his lady love.
Come to think of it, if Monica was my lady love, I’d do that in a flash.
Although Pablo probably would not want to draw it, and no one would want to buy it!
Now we know why M always pounces on him. 🙂
Suddenly, I hate fan service. Hahahahaha. 🙂
Did someone say fanservice
Yes, and Doc said it sooner. 🙂 http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autoaf05.html
True, but this is at least somewhat applicable:
One of these days I’ll learn not to check out comics recommended here. All they do is push my hot buttons.
I agree. We are totally shameless.
A real man would have his hands behind his head, and still hold up the wreath…Merry Christmas ladies…;)
Looks like Paul decided to rise to the challange posed by his female fans.
Oh, and now that you ladies got what you asked for, it’s time to pony up and help the guy out by buying a print.
Not until we get Alan. Or Lieutenant Beefcake. Then again…(I am kidding, really. Well, kind of. I still want beefcake Alan or Sexy CopMan. Justin, I think it is?)
Paul, any chance of a calendar? I’d buy that in a heartbeat.
a calendar of the male characters almost nude… scary thought i think my grandmother would buy that she takes life drawing classes
Are you kidding? If my relatives found out I owned that They’d disown me! and any chance at a boyfriend would be ruined caused they’d make assumptions.
Assumptions? Like what, that you’re hetrosexual?
no the assumption that i think about… stuff like that all the time. They would think this because i would have bought a print of a more than half naked guy.
I did not know it was normal for a heterosexual girl to like explicit stuff, I’m more into brains.
I would make an epic Zombi
I would think that would enhance your chances of getting a BF. Besides, they already make that assumption regardless. Well, they hope for it, anyway.
I don’t really know what hetrosexual women think about, but I can tell you homosexual women do think about stuff like that much of the time. Explicit stuff too. My mom had a killer porno collection.
Know what zombie plumbers think about? DRAIIINNNNSSSS!!
Quality over quantity! The best BF would be the one that wants me for my brains, soul and empathy since those relationships last.
The only reason I can think of for that stuff is to develop artistic realism since the human body is infinitely more attractive in clothes.
I’d be a vegetarian zombi GRAIIIINNNNSSSSSS!!!
Ah, youthful idealism. Fear not, life will soon beat such lofty notions out of your head.
then i shall break its spirit
Does that mean that High-rise construction zombies think about CRAAAAAANES?
Zombie Chiropractors, PAAAAAAAAINS?
Zombie Meterologists, the RAAAAAAAINS?
Zombie mail-delivery persons, LAAAANES?
(Let’s not even think about them going postal…)
…and the Dickenson zombie wears CHAAAAINS.
-Yorick’s zombie comes for DAAAANES.
-A ghost pretending to be a zombie FEEIIIGNS.
-Phlebotonist zombies go for your VEEIIIGNS.
And I’ll vote for a calender with split FRAAAMES. 😀
-IT zombies want DOMAAAIIINS
-nearly naked zombies wander about in their HAAANES
-Pilot zombies fly thier PLAAANES
-Minnesota zombies put on thier SNOW CHAAAINS
-Monica as a zombie looks for ARCHEOLOGICAL REMAAAINS
-and Community Theater zombies sing of the RAAAINS in SPAAAIN that stay mainly on the PLAAAINS
-assuredly Wapsi fan zombies reading this will COMPLAAAIN
I agree that a calendar of male characters (almost nude) would be really tasty!
Hey, THIS lady much prefered the ladies, thank you ;P
And now we are left wondering.
So 1 vote for a male calendar,
and 1 for a female calendar,
Paul I guess you will also have to do one for couples too, just to cover everyone.
This sounds like a lot of work but it could also be a big revenue maker too.
Jabberwonky, In this cold weather NO MAN can hold up a wreath with out either his hands or a nail.
So….you want to see Kevin nailing the wreath? 😉
He’s wearing it wrong, it should be around him.
Especially dressed as he is…
Wapsi Square: an Equal Oppotunity webcomic.
are you saying that the men in this comic are exploited?
Not exactly, but when it comes to graphic slaughter, it’s strictly male victims here. Of course this is typical of pretty much all cartoonists out there. I think they all share the same brain in that regard.
You’re forgetting the fact that several female characters have died in this webcomic, as part of the plot. Which is how it is in the majority of the comics universe.
Died, yes, sort of. They’re all alive now in one way or another. But none shown having their head sliced into sections, or a fist through their chin, complete with resulting blood. That sort of thing. As I said, graphic slaughter.
It may be part of the initial plot in some comics, but it ends there in the vast majority. Show me ONE web comic that has roughly equal numbers of males and females shown killed. Just one. In most, if females are involved, they are doing much, if not most, of the slaughtering. Some, like the two linked to in this comments section, go out of their way to have nothing happening to females, even the evil ones, yet several males killed in the on-going plot as if it’s nothing, even funny. In one, hundreds of males, and not one female. That’s typical. And before you say that’s how the world is, I would remind you this is not the world. Comics are fantasy. Thus the author has the flexability to present any way he/she likes. Yet, they present it the SAME way 99.9% of the time. Thus the shared brain comment.
Lets see I remember one guard killed by mayahuel, Tina and Monica being killed on camera also extreme pain and graphic hurt felt by Shelley, off camera there were the guards may killed, Shelley’s mom, the GGs being burned to death and the entire population of lanthis (50:50 male:Female) and the little girl (little children always trump everyone else) other than that not much though the men tended to die relatively quickly so the women win this one for being variously burned, stabbed through the head and living, hit with a calendar machine, having tattoo like thing coming out of skin violently, waking up and knowing she was going to die, having dead body possessed by demons and librarian, being immortal (can’t think of anything worse than immortality) and being locked in a prison for something she didn’t do.
If we were to assume that this comic is not equal opportunity then the men can really only defend their position as the takers of abuse by the fact that they are routinely… assaulted by their girlfriends, and so far they aren’t complaining.
I’m afriad you missed the point. I said graphically shown. Not who suffered. How much of the actual killing was shown? Tina slumped over the wheel, and the little girl is about it. Tina was resurected, and not shown sliced and diced or head ripped open. So I’m not sure she even counts, and Monica was quickly brought back to life. Monica was never actually stabbed in the head. Also, as I said, if females are involved, they are doing much, if not all of the killing. May was a monster, who had no qualms about murdering anyone at any time just to make a point. Jin, before she became a golem, is shown ripping open a man’s head. Notice how none of the bad guys were females? How convenient, and how typical. The GGGs, also females, slaughtered thousands, not on orders, but through a huge temper tantrum. And the sphinxes (again females), murdered who knows how many (mostly, if not entirely, men).
All of which makes me wonder why these things have male defenders. It seems there is always some female(s) who can defeat and slaughter any number of men without so much as breaking a nail. If women are that good, why don’t they have mostly female defenders/soldiers/bodyguards as well? I know why. It’s because of that sharing brain thing again. I doubt that thought has even ever occured to any of them.
Oh yes, and I meant to mention the comic to which you linked, Cwens Quest, is very typical of what I meant. The evil queen orders her 3 male (of course) advisors to kill the dragon. They get eaten alive in the process (like we didn’t see that coming), and nothing happens to her, even though she is roundly defeated. I’ll be willing to bet the entire comic is like that.
May isn’t a monster, she is goal oriented, What jin did to that man (who was about to r*** those girls) I classify as self defense and defense of others, she is not a bad guy
as to Cwen’s quest which is worse being killed or being defeated, Knowing you are defeated and allowed to stew in that ignominy for the rest of their sad and sorry life.
must i also point out that said advisors were qualmless about taking the child Cwen using her as a puppet to achieve their goals and never allowed her a normal childhood, and they also had no problem replacing her when she ran away.
said comic also shows the replacement to Cwen being Shot through the head as a direct result of her activites, and Cwen’s half sister is hit by a bus (on orders of her father) after being taken forwards in time, Symus takes a lot of damage and Trel was thrown into a dimension filled with nothing but hats (by her father), leaving major psychological problems. Not to mention Lord Attez’ habit of throwing kittens out of windows.
also if you missed it, the reason Sabril was not killed was that Cwen made a deal with her and Cwen keeps her word.
I think this needs clarifying I put the pain above the gore. Emotional above physical, and longevity above elaborateness since i have cultivated my empathy over the years and those are the things that are WORSE THAN DEATH. I am sorry but being aware that she was being stabbed through the head was probably extremely unpleasant for Monica, and Conscience’s little demo was entirely unpleasant especially cause the eyes kept moving. the little lanthian girl had it worst since while it was over fast and probably didn’t hurt, it made her die in fear and torment so she couldn’t pass on.
Most males die in these things because they have a hero complex or a pig gene. Mostly guys are also in more dangerous occupations so mostly we can’t assume that context isn’t important in the death count.
Also you said 1 comic with approximately the same number of male and female. I gave you Wapsi and you retort with Cwen, and women are monsters, why do you fight this? have we taken Feminism too far and you feel you can’t get recognition is that it?
It has nothing to do with feminism and everything to do with equality and balance. Most feminism has little to do with equality and lots to do with money, power, vengence, and superior rights.
With equal rights comes equal responsibilities. That includes the responsibility to die. Motivations and real world occurances are meaningless in the fantasy world of comics. Going off into “worst than death” territory has nothing to do with my point and cannot be compared as it is highly subjective. Monica was never stabbed in the head,period. May isn’t a monster now (and has more than paid for her crimes), but she was. And that was when she was still human.
I hardly think having to join the opposition and living, probably still well, is much of a punishment compared to being eaten alive. She’ll get used to it quickly, all the while plotting how to get her throne back I would imagine. My point is why weren’t any of her “advisors” female? She was a queen after all, seems like she would have other females around her. But they were destined to be killed horribly, so the writer made them male. It’s that simple. As I said, how or way is not important (again, it’s fantasy, after all), it’s purely a numbers game to me. Now, do a body count in Cwen by gender, and let me know how it comes out.
There are more men killed in comics because there are more men PERIOD.
Seriously, put more female characters in comics and the numbers will even up.
You may be right, Jade, but why are there so many more men? Why aren’t there more even numbers? Because the artists/writers almost all seem to think alike, which is one of my points. You will rarely, if ever, see female cops, or paramedics, or security guards, etc in any of them, even though these occupations have many females these days (look at how many airport screeners are females). Yet, somehow, when it comes time to die, only males seem to show up.
Hero-Complex vs. self preservation, typically women have a more dominant preservation instinct than hero complex since we evolved so that we can look after our children better. Men have a hero complex because defense of others is a macho thing which may be expected to attract girls
I’m sure you’re right, Artemisia, but we’re talking comics here.
SoWhyMe: there are more men in comics (and thus being “cops, or paramedics, or security guards, etc” and “doing all the dying”) because, as you so aptly pointed out in the discussion on the previous strip, more guys read and make comics, therefore main and minor characters are more likely to be male (and thus “doing all the dying”.
Want more girls in comics? So do I. I want to see more female characters I can identify with and more creators I can look up to. But even when presented with a comic like Wapsi, with fantastic female characters, people automatically assume that it has a greater male readership. Maybe ten years ago that was true, but I personally know more girls who read comics and webcomics. We’re not so much of a minority any more and we are contributing.
Problem is, even comics drawn by women follow the exact same pattern. The gender of the artist seems to make no difference in the “brain sharing.” I had a disussion with one of the female artists who did follow the pattern, even though she said she was trying to show things opposite regarding gender roles in her comic story line. She did, but only up to a point. When i pointed out that should mean the scene in which she had with many, many males slaughtered (by a female) for no real reason, should have been females slaughtered for it to truly be opposite, she didn’t have a clue. So ingrained is the mindset. When she finally did get it, she became incensed I was pointing out her hypocrisy, she delete my postings. It has nothing to do with the number of females in the comic.
Not until we see Phix with strategically-placed wings…
Me? I’d like to see Bud…
Bud with strategically placed wings? ^_^
Chicken wings maybe.
Tina’s wings – with Tina holding strategically positioned cups of coffee and standing behind the counter – perhaps?
Make that just coffee cups. If there’s actual hot coffee in them then just one mishap and
Why would Tina be caught dead like that? most people cant see her wings you’d get the emperor’s new clothes all over again
Being caught dead is old hat to Tina.
Oh. Well, since you mentioned it… yes please.
No, Phix without strategically-placed wings thank you very much…
shame on you she’s not even human it’d be like spying on your cat…
How can you spy on a cat? Company comes over, they get in the middle of the floor and kick up that leg and clean. It’s like trying to sneak a peek at the golden gate bridge.
Phix? The Librarian of all knowledge!?!? I don’t think it’s even possible to spy on such a comic.. I mean Cosmic entity.
(Gotta learn to type or spell or both)
Oh my! Talk about joy to the world!! It’s made my day! Lots of !!!!!!!!!!!”s!
I’d buy that 😉
He’s awfully fit for being a photographer, isn’t he?
Come to think of it, almost no one in the entire cast has even just a little excess body fat. M’s boss maybe has a bit of a tummy, but he’s up there in years.
I suppose it’s hard to draw overweight people without being offensive. plus it is hard to put them in fast paced world saving action, and the evil B*st*rds that took the GGs weren’t quite so evil as to make unchangeable bodies that were overweight
It’s not impossible to draw overweight people without being offensive, though. http://www.airshipentertainment.com/buck.html
Or, almost nobody believes fat people can be heroes.
He’s a nature photographer. Need to be fairly fit for that.
Ummm! Beefcake! So this is what Monica saw yesterday that put her in that deer caught in the headlights look?
Monica’s getting a Yule Log for Christmas.
As in, yule really like this log?
Dangit! I thought I’d left my webcam OFF!
are you saying that you look like THAT? you’d better be Very careful with your adress or you’ll be trampled to death by half the female demographic who reads this comic (The other half is married, too young, or in it for Heather)
or are you saying that you are a nudist who habitually does this stuff? in which case you probably don’t have to worry about the above painful death
what? I wish or he wishes?
Oh, yeah. I meant he wishes what you said.
It’s about time we get some beef!
LOL!! Way to be all “equal opportunity”, Mr Taylor.
Love it. XD
Jingle balls–er–bells, Jingle bells, jingle all the waaaaaayyyyyy…
Why is it that i am finding the above conversation (above) very disturbing
Seems fairly “healthy” to me. Or perhaps you’re viewing it sort of like a group of women hooting and carrying on during “ladies night” at the local strip club. A couple of drinks and a few male strippers can make otherwise reserved wives, mothers, grannys, and GFs as raunchy as any males.
Wonder if the ladies who tended to quickly look away, “just to be polite”, at yesterday’s posting did that today?
i don’t know My reaction to yesterday’s was summarized as “oh well it happens, nothing i’ve never seen before, fairly normal in comics” todays can be summarized as “wrinkling eyebrows, uhh whaa, oh hahaha *scrolls down a bit* OH *Closes laptop* *giggles*”
Woo! Thanks for this! -snaps several photos-
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