Different fictional universes vary widely on the existence of “incubae”. More often than not, there are no male Succubae, and they procreate through an entirely different process from mortals (variations include: “adopting” human females, transforming human males into succubae, laying eggs in their victims all Xenomorph style, or just having sex in a different, non-feeding way with their human male partner, but the children are always full female succubae)
…or the Incubae are actually succubae shapeshifted into a male form (whether this is done for the sake of procreation or just for a new kink is another question entirely).
My guess is that Succubi breed true with humans, so no half breed. Atsali is another matter as her parents were both paras. Her mother was a siren and her father an incubus. Both of these “races” are sexual predators who in mythology used humans for not only nourishment but also for procreation. So both are probably able to breed true with a human, but together they produce half breeds.
Really nothing but the myths to go on, so just guessing for now.
It’s a form of selection bias. If she were not an amazing person with a truly powerful personality, she would not have survived to be in the situation she’s in. A mundane mundane (like most of us) would have died long before.
Only in the most tiny sense. The children that were merged to make her were all human, she just ended up how she is due to Lanthian tech/magic. There is a human condition similar to what she is where twins kind of merge during the gestation process, leaving a single individual with traits from both. Extreme cases could theoretically have two sets of DNA(an episode of CSI used this concept). Kath’s six in one case is an extreme version
How do you do archive dives? And how do you do forum dives? I see no way to search the archives for particular characters, or locations, or events. And I don’t even know how to get on the forum.
You can search the archives for Katherine by clicking her name under the picture, to the left. It’s red. The forum, I don’t know. It’s huge. Give us a break, illiad. Tell us what you know.
Katherine has already had to survive Atsali’s clumsy phase, when she was slightly younger then Cassie’s age now. She doesn’t have any talon marks on her back. As I recall that included setting her own nose, and snorting down the blood, after ‘Sali kicked her in the face and engaged in a similar bit of free climbing. As I said she’s a rock. Top Spot indead! http://wapsisquare.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/2013-03-13-who-why-what-where-when.jpg
Thank you! Pickle is “old as dirt,” but chronologically is she Teen or still Tween? She’s in the freshman class. If a teen that makes her 2 years younger then Atlsali, in the Anasazi ruins.
If still a tween, it makes her 3[so about the same age. Ask any younger sister. 8D]
Katherine has shown the most character development of any of the Wapsis — going from Tepoz’s Ghost Girl who stuck spiders on pins to SuperMom with the composure of six women!
Katherine has met Tepoz a few times, but the reference is to her first appearance, when Tepoz remarked on her appearance after she left. http://wapsisquare.com/comic/10132003/
Even at the beginning Kath was seriously amazing at relationships- she saw right through the owen/shelly/lakshmi mess immediately when they were introduced at the bar with no backstory to draw on. That’s easy to see in hindsight, but impressive coming at it cold.
Kat is also an amalgam of six (6) Lanthian babies so there may be something going on with that. We know she’s very smart (PHD if I remember right.) and resourceful under pressure.
Archive dates (I won’t post the links because posting multiple links tends to hold up the article for moderation)…
That she’s resourceful under pressure: the whole Mapimi Desert Trip sequence starting January 28, 2013. In particular February 12 (saves herself and Atsali from a massive explosion by escaping in a mine cart), February 19th (having just crashed down in said mine cart, has the knowledge and presence of mind to reduce Atsali’s dislocated shoulder under field conditions), February 25 (when trapped by a collapsing building, gets Atsali into the one safe place to ride out the collapse), March 13-14 (having almost fallen to her death, she resets her own broken nose, grabs Atsali, and has Atsali fly her down to the next spot to investigate).
That Kath have had a Ph.D. – inferred from her participation in an archaeological dig near the Red Sea, March 25, 2013. It’s not clear from this whether she was an undergrad or a post-grad or a post-doc at this point. From the discussion in that strip it does appear that she’s smart enough to have been selected for the dig on her own merits. (We know from her back-story that even as a post-traumatic-shocked recluse, she was smart enough to be hired as a researcher/custodian by the same museum Monica worked at).
That there were six Lantinan babies who were accidentally merged into a single being during crystal-stasis transfer: May 21, 2013
That Kath is that amalgam of six Lanthian babies: June 6, 2013.
This isn’t the first time, is it? I’m sure Katherine recognizes the symptoms. Also, I expect there are adults at Gryphon who are paying attention. They do, after all, have a potential death star on their hands. I doubt they’re casual about that.
Math- the far edge of the bell curve for martial artists in the Grrlverse.
Having Mathias say ‘there’s no such thing as an ordinary human’ is the equivalent of Einstein saying it: It may be true, but he isn’t the guy to ask.
Go Katherine! And Selene’s husband really must be amazing to survive being married to a succubus.
Since Skyler is a full succubus, her father must be an incubus. He can hold his own.
So… Human hubby is the second marriage?
Where did it say she had a human husband?
Oh, I see it now. But how was she using the word human?
We don’t know that.
The Succubi may breed true solely through the female line. A human husband fathering Skylar might be business as usual.
Different fictional universes vary widely on the existence of “incubae”. More often than not, there are no male Succubae, and they procreate through an entirely different process from mortals (variations include: “adopting” human females, transforming human males into succubae, laying eggs in their victims all Xenomorph style, or just having sex in a different, non-feeding way with their human male partner, but the children are always full female succubae)
…or the Incubae are actually succubae shapeshifted into a male form (whether this is done for the sake of procreation or just for a new kink is another question entirely).
Nope. Atsali’s mother was the siren – she gets he succubus through her father.
@BarerMender. It all depends on how you define ‘human’ I guess.
I took it to mean person without even noticing.
Looks like Skyler and Atsali have something else in common. They are both crossbreeds.
Hybrid-Vigor for the Win!
My guess is that Succubi breed true with humans, so no half breed. Atsali is another matter as her parents were both paras. Her mother was a siren and her father an incubus. Both of these “races” are sexual predators who in mythology used humans for not only nourishment but also for procreation. So both are probably able to breed true with a human, but together they produce half breeds.
Really nothing but the myths to go on, so just guessing for now.
That’s my supposition as well.
What is it about Katherine that attracts these paranormals?
She’s cool, and she’s unusual.
It’s a form of selection bias. If she were not an amazing person with a truly powerful personality, she would not have survived to be in the situation she’s in. A mundane mundane (like most of us) would have died long before.
She’s also managing two of the most dangerous children on planet Earth.
(and she’s kinda ‘paranormal’ herself…)
Only in the most tiny sense. The children that were merged to make her were all human, she just ended up how she is due to Lanthian tech/magic. There is a human condition similar to what she is where twins kind of merge during the gestation process, leaving a single individual with traits from both. Extreme cases could theoretically have two sets of DNA(an episode of CSI used this concept). Kath’s six in one case is an extreme version
An afterthought…people with that “condition” can be referred to as “Chimera”…ominous in this universe
Yeah. All humans pupils look like Katherine’s.
you will have to do an archive *and* forum dive, to follow the story of *why* she has ‘spider eyes’ 😛 🙂
How do you do archive dives? And how do you do forum dives? I see no way to search the archives for particular characters, or locations, or events. And I don’t even know how to get on the forum.
You can search the archives for Katherine by clicking her name under the picture, to the left. It’s red. The forum, I don’t know. It’s huge. Give us a break, illiad. Tell us what you know.
Katherine has already had to survive Atsali’s clumsy phase, when she was slightly younger then Cassie’s age now. She doesn’t have any talon marks on her back. As I recall that included setting her own nose, and snorting down the blood, after ‘Sali kicked her in the face and engaged in a similar bit of free climbing. As I said she’s a rock. Top Spot indead!
http://wapsisquare.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/2013-03-13-who-why-what-where-when.jpg
Atsali was fifteen at the time.
Thank you! Pickle is “old as dirt,” but chronologically is she Teen or still Tween? She’s in the freshman class. If a teen that makes her 2 years younger then Atlsali, in the Anasazi ruins.
If still a tween, it makes her 3[so about the same age. Ask any younger sister. 8D]
The last I heard, she was 13.
Katherine has shown the most character development of any of the Wapsis — going from Tepoz’s Ghost Girl who stuck spiders on pins to SuperMom with the composure of six women!
I remember Kath being spooky, but when was she connected to Tepoz?
Katherine has met Tepoz a few times, but the reference is to her first appearance, when Tepoz remarked on her appearance after she left. http://wapsisquare.com/comic/10132003/
I meant this one: http://wapsisquare.com/comic/10152003/
Even at the beginning Kath was seriously amazing at relationships- she saw right through the owen/shelly/lakshmi mess immediately when they were introduced at the bar with no backstory to draw on. That’s easy to see in hindsight, but impressive coming at it cold.
Kat is a full blood Lanthian. She’s actually thousands of years old but was in stasis for most of it.
She may be more than just human.
I agree!
Kathrine topped her HUSBAND??? just how impressive IS her hubby?
He may be the Faust of legends. A human who made a deal with the devil for power and eternal life.
And to think, Kat started as an exceptionally shy recluse with really stiff hair, and now she’s above MIB and able to calm powerful paras.
She’s a top!
She’s the top! She’s the Colosseum.
She’s the top! She’s the Louvre Museum.
If I’m the bottom, she’s the top!
Kat is also an amalgam of six (6) Lanthian babies so there may be something going on with that. We know she’s very smart (PHD if I remember right.) and resourceful under pressure.
And no stranger to pain…and life-threatening situations.
Citation needed?
Archive dates (I won’t post the links because posting multiple links tends to hold up the article for moderation)…
That she’s resourceful under pressure: the whole Mapimi Desert Trip sequence starting January 28, 2013. In particular February 12 (saves herself and Atsali from a massive explosion by escaping in a mine cart), February 19th (having just crashed down in said mine cart, has the knowledge and presence of mind to reduce Atsali’s dislocated shoulder under field conditions), February 25 (when trapped by a collapsing building, gets Atsali into the one safe place to ride out the collapse), March 13-14 (having almost fallen to her death, she resets her own broken nose, grabs Atsali, and has Atsali fly her down to the next spot to investigate).
That Kath have had a Ph.D. – inferred from her participation in an archaeological dig near the Red Sea, March 25, 2013. It’s not clear from this whether she was an undergrad or a post-grad or a post-doc at this point. From the discussion in that strip it does appear that she’s smart enough to have been selected for the dig on her own merits. (We know from her back-story that even as a post-traumatic-shocked recluse, she was smart enough to be hired as a researcher/custodian by the same museum Monica worked at).
That there were six Lantinan babies who were accidentally merged into a single being during crystal-stasis transfer: May 21, 2013
That Kath is that amalgam of six Lanthian babies: June 6, 2013.
Katherine was also the mystical “Spider Guardian” described by the Anasazi pictograph carvings…
No one has caught the fact that Kath knows what is going on with Stela?
She’s a MOM! .. OF COURSE SHE KNOWS!!
This isn’t the first time, is it? I’m sure Katherine recognizes the symptoms. Also, I expect there are adults at Gryphon who are paying attention. They do, after all, have a potential death star on their hands. I doubt they’re casual about that.
Selene, if you knew what Kath was like 10 years ago, there would be no doubt in your mind she is the most amazing human you ever met.
Been a reader since the very first issue, and I gotta say that the growth of these characters is amazing. It makes me feel so old. In a good way.
Kinda like watching your own kid relatives get older.
Heh… Katherine definitely proves The Doctor’s saying, “There’s no such thing as an ‘ordinary‘ human.” 🙂
Strangely enough, Mathias (Grrl Power comic) says pretty much the same thing:
http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1311
Math- the far edge of the bell curve for martial artists in the Grrlverse.
Having Mathias say ‘there’s no such thing as an ordinary human’ is the equivalent of Einstein saying it: It may be true, but he isn’t the guy to ask.
Mom voice for the win, every time.
Incidentally (and, I suspect, not coincidentally), Katherine’s gray streak is getting larger every time.
If you mean that bit on the side, that’s just lighting effects
Only if you’re talking about the right side of her head 🙄