I’m kinda confused by the whole being controlled to kill thing. Shelly was quite ready to beat the living snot out of the immortal being, the only thing that Tina was controlling was the location, not the act itself.
Ah, I see. But on another note, could she have really killed Nudge? She’s immortal and as we saw, Tina beat her silly and her wounds healed up almost immediately.
This. Monica has wondered a few times now, and now that Shelly is getting more involved, is it any wonder that she’s starting to wonder if she is/is affected by all the demons, golems, demigods, spirits, ghosts, and other supernatural bric-a-brac floating around?
I think Shelly’s talking about killing Nudge. Besides her own motives for wanting to do harm to Nudge, Tina’s egging her on had a good deal of influence on Shelly simply because Tina’s demons are free agents. They can influence anyone. Of course she could not have actually killed Nudge, but Shelly didn’t know that at the time and was about to do her best to do Nudge in. She was being controlled by Nudge to terminate with extreme prejudice. Without Tina there Shelly would probably have stopped after a couple of punches, if any. Tina wasn’t even aware of her control at that moment. She, to, was out of control.
See, that’s what I thought too. But it seems the desire to beat the hell out of Nudge was entirely Shelly’s? I guess this is a case where the characters are mistaken. Paul has said that they aren’t always correct in their viewpoints.
I just finished watching The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet’s Nest.
Lisbeth Salander (not so much in what she does, but in her character) reminded me somehow of one or more Wapsi characters:
Tina, in that she stands completely outside the bounds of what we would consider even marginally normal, and almost seems to be driven by demons,
Bud, in that she was horribly damaged by the actions of people in authority, even people who should have defended her, but has survived and reached an internal equilibrium that allows her to survive and function,
and Jin, in that she knows she’s not sane in the conventional sense,and, i think, is somewhat afraid of her own possible actions if she isn’t very careful.
(I could see Brandi coming up with the way that she solves the twin problems of her half-brother and a gang of drug-dealing bikers, too…)
yea, seems like it, since she’s not used to that yet, and how else would Bud know the place is safe to poit to?
also, almost didn’t recognize you with the new image, it’s a good pic.
Most of my friends wouldn’t recognise me from it either – i have no idea why i tend toward female avatars, being that i am about as non-female as is humanly possible to get…
Same here. Let’s just say that it’s our softer female side that shines through our gruff’ruff’n hairy exterior (not talking head hair here, at least not in my case ::lol: )
Ah..I see. The well-coiffed mohawk led me astray. Checked it out in IMDB ..looks peculiar. Hollywood interpretation of Goth/Punk. Explains the Mohawk though.
actually i usually go for female characters or avatars too. (My favorite character to use in the Super Smash Bros. Series was Peach for the longest time, before i switched to pikachu, who ironically is voice-acted by a woman)
No – it’s Swedish. Third in the “Millenium” trilogy (“The Girl with the Dargon Tattoo“, “The Girl Who Played with Fire” and “The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet’s Nest”), based on the books by Stieg Larsson. The trilogy are being remade in Hollywood; can’t imagine it will be as good, let alone any better.
The piercings that you can’t see in that avatar shot are real – Noomi Rapace, who plays Salander, had a punk band at one time.
(The outfit is what Salander chooses to wear to her murder trial, BTW.)
So you don’t think the films are sick and violent, or at least violent? You don’t think what happened to the lead character in the first film, at least, was sick?
And, yes, I said that. But not all things. As I said at the time, I was talking about killing and gore. It does bother me to see anyone raped or receiving a savage, one sided beating. And I don’t mean beaten like in a rocky film during the fight or two people, of either gender, just fighting each other. It somewhat bothered me seeing Nudge beaten like that, but not as much since she was immortal and healed quickly.
Ah now i get it!
From first reading the comic i thought Shelly ment Monica may have told Bud about what had happened but after reading the comments she means Bud was controlled by others (well they attempted) as part of the Chimera and wanted to get her input on how to deal with it.
Reading the comments help ^^
And if I were shelly it would be the poiting almost in my lap which would be making me jump not the actual poiting 🙂
Heh, I wouldn’t have figured out what Shelly meant if I hadn’t read yours.
I’m wondering if Bud is only reacting to Shelly’s reaction in the third panel, or if she didn’t mean to get that close, herself. In any case, the way Bud looks there seems very familiar to me for some reason. Does she often poit in too close to someone? I can’t remember.
Remember when Brandi poited in behind Shelly when she was wearing welding goggles? – Shelly thought it was Jin, turned around … and did a faceplant on Brandi’s balcony…
Huh…just checked, and yes. I’d say that hair growth is no biggie since time passes fluidly and without a whole lot of fanfare in this comic, but Shelly just said that she was almost controlled into killing someone today.
The way I read it, in the 4th panel Shelly was about to say, “So, today, I was hoping we could talk about…” rather than saying “So, today, I almost killed someone because…” Is possible that it took Shelly a while to get up the nerve to bring up the subject with Bud. She might not have had the nerve to tell Bud on the phone anything about why she wanted Bud to come over.
…and while I’m at it, why did I spell “Shelly” with an “e”? Oh, gods, I’m getting senile, too! They told me the memory was the second thing to go. And… I don’t remember what was the first…
Eeeehh..Was there something before I got surrounded with eeky old people, and that nice nurse started appearing???
(Had an aunt that suffered dementia. She was quite the character about it. Once she remarked:”Sometimes I come home, look in my clothes closet, and immediately wonder who bought those clothes and what dreadful taste drove that person to buy those horrid Louboutins…” )
In all seriousness, I can imagine that going senile must indeed feel like in the link You provided…
I wonder how Tina f.i. experiences her looks, taking the fact that her demons no longer are a part of who the girl “Tina” was… *scratches chin and lets mind wander*
You could run it trough photoshop or Gimp(=free) and jack-up the contrast, or use “replace colour” to lighten-up the grocerie-bag brown of the background. In most cases, fiddling with the “saturation” and “contrast” sliders, fixes a lot.
I would say Scotty since she has the disposition to punch someone/fight at the drop of a hat. Mr. Scott was hotheaded like that. Especially when drunk.
I agree, Scotty did have a bit of a temper.
But you’re forgetting one thing: Shellys unnatural strength.
At most Scotty had average or slighty above average strength, thats not even close to Shelly.
Although both of them were stronger than could have been possible for a human:
Spock was emotionless & logical, like (sane) Jin
And Warf was quick tempered & realatively quick to fight, like Shelly
Transition, see abrupt, stark, 180 degree. Shelly is a spaz indeed and she has a spazzes social skills as well. “Hi hw ya doing, I tried killing someone today!”
Stil, I do like her, despite her Aspi-like social skills (I am one, thusly know very well what I am talking about—>social skills in analog-life? : Mostly absent…)
I’m kinda confused by the whole being controlled to kill thing. Shelly was quite ready to beat the living snot out of the immortal being, the only thing that Tina was controlling was the location, not the act itself.
Shelly is a spaz.
Ah, I see. But on another note, could she have really killed Nudge? She’s immortal and as we saw, Tina beat her silly and her wounds healed up almost immediately.
I think shelly might still believe she is a superhuman not just very strong 🙂
This. Monica has wondered a few times now, and now that Shelly is getting more involved, is it any wonder that she’s starting to wonder if she is/is affected by all the demons, golems, demigods, spirits, ghosts, and other supernatural bric-a-brac floating around?
Ooh, in that case I blame Monica.
Yeah, but, like Monica, an utterly adorable spaz…
I think the “someone” she was trying to kill was a reference to Monica in the Calendar Machine room?
No – she knew that that wouldn’t kill her – or, rather – she had been told and believed that it wouldn’t.
I think Shelly’s talking about killing Nudge. Besides her own motives for wanting to do harm to Nudge, Tina’s egging her on had a good deal of influence on Shelly simply because Tina’s demons are free agents. They can influence anyone. Of course she could not have actually killed Nudge, but Shelly didn’t know that at the time and was about to do her best to do Nudge in. She was being controlled by Nudge to terminate with extreme prejudice. Without Tina there Shelly would probably have stopped after a couple of punches, if any. Tina wasn’t even aware of her control at that moment. She, to, was out of control.
Makes sense to me.
Opps! The line “She was being controlled by Nudge to terminate with extreme prejudice” should have read “She was being controlled by Tina …”
See, that’s what I thought too. But it seems the desire to beat the hell out of Nudge was entirely Shelly’s? I guess this is a case where the characters are mistaken. Paul has said that they aren’t always correct in their viewpoints.
I just finished watching The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet’s Nest.
Lisbeth Salander (not so much in what she does, but in her character) reminded me somehow of one or more Wapsi characters:
Tina, in that she stands completely outside the bounds of what we would consider even marginally normal, and almost seems to be driven by demons,
Bud, in that she was horribly damaged by the actions of people in authority, even people who should have defended her, but has survived and reached an internal equilibrium that allows her to survive and function,
and Jin, in that she knows she’s not sane in the conventional sense,and, i think, is somewhat afraid of her own possible actions if she isn’t very careful.
(I could see Brandi coming up with the way that she solves the twin problems of her half-brother and a gang of drug-dealing bikers, too…)
Just hit me – i assume that it’s Bud that Shelly is talking to in the first panel?
yea, seems like it, since she’s not used to that yet, and how else would Bud know the place is safe to poit to?
also, almost didn’t recognize you with the new image, it’s a good pic.
Most of my friends wouldn’t recognise me from it either – i have no idea why i tend toward female avatars, being that i am about as non-female as is humanly possible to get…
Same here. Let’s just say that it’s our softer female side that shines through our gruff’ruff’n hairy exterior (not talking head hair here, at least not in my case ::lol: )
On Your Avatar: 80’s much???
Nope. The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet’s Nest.
Set about 2006, i think…
Ah..I see. The well-coiffed mohawk led me astray. Checked it out in IMDB ..looks peculiar. Hollywood interpretation of Goth/Punk. Explains the Mohawk though.
actually i usually go for female characters or avatars too. (My favorite character to use in the Super Smash Bros. Series was Peach for the longest time, before i switched to pikachu, who ironically is voice-acted by a woman)
No – it’s Swedish. Third in the “Millenium” trilogy (“The Girl with the Dargon Tattoo“, “The Girl Who Played with Fire” and “The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet’s Nest”), based on the books by Stieg Larsson. The trilogy are being remade in Hollywood; can’t imagine it will be as good, let alone any better.
The piercings that you can’t see in that avatar shot are real – Noomi Rapace, who plays Salander, had a punk band at one time.
(The outfit is what Salander chooses to wear to her murder trial, BTW.)
For all their pacifism, the Swedes make some sick, violent movies.
Well, i know where you stand and where i stand.
You’re wrong – or, rather, you’re looking at the film through what, based on some of your comments, i might judge to be rather warped prejudices.
Didn’t you once say that violence against women didn’t bother you too much (or was that someone on another comment list)?
So you don’t think the films are sick and violent, or at least violent? You don’t think what happened to the lead character in the first film, at least, was sick?
And, yes, I said that. But not all things. As I said at the time, I was talking about killing and gore. It does bother me to see anyone raped or receiving a savage, one sided beating. And I don’t mean beaten like in a rocky film during the fight or two people, of either gender, just fighting each other. It somewhat bothered me seeing Nudge beaten like that, but not as much since she was immortal and healed quickly.
Ah now i get it!
From first reading the comic i thought Shelly ment Monica may have told Bud about what had happened but after reading the comments she means Bud was controlled by others (well they attempted) as part of the Chimera and wanted to get her input on how to deal with it.
Reading the comments help ^^
And if I were shelly it would be the poiting almost in my lap which would be making me jump not the actual poiting 🙂
If it weren’t for the comments, I’d be hopelessly lost. I wouldn’t enjoy the strip any less, but I’d be hopeless lost…
You and me both. 🙂
Heh, I wouldn’t have figured out what Shelly meant if I hadn’t read yours.
I’m wondering if Bud is only reacting to Shelly’s reaction in the third panel, or if she didn’t mean to get that close, herself. In any case, the way Bud looks there seems very familiar to me for some reason. Does she often poit in too close to someone? I can’t remember.
Remember when Brandi poited in behind Shelly when she was wearing welding goggles? – Shelly thought it was Jin, turned around … and did a faceplant on Brandi’s balcony…
That was classic 🙂
Is anyone else seeing gravatars come up as broken picture links?
Nope…
Not I. They all look good, including your portrait of whom you aren’t.
I haven’t been here, so my tendency to make machines break simply by my proximity can’t be to blame.
Sounds like you need a good degaussing. 🙂
Seems to be okay now.
Didn’t Shelley have the back of her head in a buzz-cut just a few days ago, or was it just my failing vision? I like it much better like this.
Huh…just checked, and yes. I’d say that hair growth is no biggie since time passes fluidly and without a whole lot of fanfare in this comic, but Shelly just said that she was almost controlled into killing someone today.
The way I read it, in the 4th panel Shelly was about to say, “So, today, I was hoping we could talk about…” rather than saying “So, today, I almost killed someone because…” Is possible that it took Shelly a while to get up the nerve to bring up the subject with Bud. She might not have had the nerve to tell Bud on the phone anything about why she wanted Bud to come over.
Considering her hair growth, I would agree.
That makes more sense timeline wise, but it seems a very odd way of starting the conversation…sounds more like the beginning of a professor’s lecture.
…and while I’m at it, why did I spell “Shelly” with an “e”? Oh, gods, I’m getting senile, too! They told me the memory was the second thing to go. And… I don’t remember what was the first…
Eeeehh..Was there something before I got surrounded with eeky old people, and that nice nurse started appearing???
(Had an aunt that suffered dementia. She was quite the character about it. Once she remarked:”Sometimes I come home, look in my clothes closet, and immediately wonder who bought those clothes and what dreadful taste drove that person to buy those horrid Louboutins…” )
You’re not the only one with such problems. Many of us have had the old people move into their houses! Yikes!!
In all seriousness, I can imagine that going senile must indeed feel like in the link You provided…
I wonder how Tina f.i. experiences her looks, taking the fact that her demons no longer are a part of who the girl “Tina” was… *scratches chin and lets mind wander*
Ya, now that you have mentioned it…
YAY! I got my original gravatar image to work! which i’m happy about, because i spent so much more time drawing this one than that silly octopus….
Only problem with it I see is that it’s so dark I can’t make out anything in it.
yea, i should fix that… i just wish i knew how…:(
You could run it trough photoshop or Gimp(=free) and jack-up the contrast, or use “replace colour” to lighten-up the grocerie-bag brown of the background. In most cases, fiddling with the “saturation” and “contrast” sliders, fixes a lot.
Sometimes playing with Gamma will do it.
thanks, i knew about photoshop, but i don’t have it, and so i will download gimp.
Flip Phones and sudden appearances, it’s like an episode of Star Trek all up in this place.
Would that make Shelly Spock or Worf?
I would say Scotty since she has the disposition to punch someone/fight at the drop of a hat. Mr. Scott was hotheaded like that. Especially when drunk.
I agree, Scotty did have a bit of a temper.
But you’re forgetting one thing: Shellys unnatural strength.
At most Scotty had average or slighty above average strength, thats not even close to Shelly.
Although both of them were stronger than could have been possible for a human:
Spock was emotionless & logical, like (sane) Jin
And Warf was quick tempered & realatively quick to fight, like Shelly
I’d think an unstable mix of Worf and Troi.
Let’s not forget Shelly’s ability to fix mechanical items…
Transition, see abrupt, stark, 180 degree. Shelly is a spaz indeed and she has a spazzes social skills as well. “Hi hw ya doing, I tried killing someone today!”
Stil, I do like her, despite her Aspi-like social skills (I am one, thusly know very well what I am talking about—>social skills in analog-life? : Mostly absent…)
Tom Petty FTW.