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Name On The Cross

by Paul Taylor on November 18, 2010 at 12:00 am
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  1. txmystic
    November 18, 2010, 12:02 am | # | Reply

    Yggdrasil? Looky out for Loki!!

    • txmystic
      November 18, 2010, 12:09 am | # | Reply

      Hey! It’s Thorsday!

      • Atomic
        November 18, 2010, 12:24 am | #

        Brfffffft! No, wait — that actually IS clever…

      • DarkSpiral
        November 18, 2010, 6:10 am | #

        It’s also the actual origin of the day’s modern name 😛

      • Grrt
        November 18, 2010, 7:36 am | #

        yup, just like Wednesday is a deterioration of “Odin’s Day”

        Odin’s Day => Odinsday => Wednesday

        Thor’s Day => Thorsday => Thursday

      • Lurkily
        November 18, 2010, 8:23 am | #

        Verified; and Odin is the origin of Wednesday, his name being Woden depending on which culture you speak to, and at which time.

      • txmystic
        November 18, 2010, 9:00 am | #

        I Frigga I Woden’t post any Balder-dash…

      • morven
        November 18, 2010, 10:40 am | #

        Sif you guys don’t stop this, my belly will get Thor from laughing.

      • Raven
        November 18, 2010, 3:04 pm | #

        Where i live (Denmark) wednesday is called Onsdag, thats even closer to Odinsday 🙂

      • BigBadRichard
        November 18, 2010, 7:05 pm | #

        Indeed almost every day of the week is in fact derived from a Norse gods name. I believe it was 4,5, or 6 days out of seven that are but its been a while since i studied Norse mythology.

      • bmonk
        November 19, 2010, 5:56 pm | #

        Say rather that the English used the Norse counterparts of the Roman deities (or the seven known planets) associated with each day–which is why Saturday kept its Roman name…

      • Thesaya
        April 28, 2011, 6:21 am | #

        Monday day of the moon,
        Tuesday Tyrs day, another Norse god.
        Wednesday Odins day
        Thursday Tors dag ehr, day.
        Friday Frejs day (Frejas brother)
        Saturday is from the roman god Saturn. In Sweden it is Lördag which is derived from the name Lögardagen, the day of washing/cleaning yourself in old Norse/Swedish
        Sunday, the day of the sun.
        So you have got 4 Norse gods, the sun, the moon and for some reason a single roman god. 😛

      • SteamPoweredSunglasses
        May 31, 2012, 2:33 am | #

        txmystic, that was the worst pun here yet! Congratulations!

    • eschmenk
      November 18, 2010, 8:58 am | # | Reply

      What did Loki have to do with Yggdrasil?

      • txmystic
        November 18, 2010, 9:16 am | #

        If memory serves, Loki was cast out and returned on the day of Ragnarok, whereupon Ygdrasil was burned by Surt, leader of the fire giants…

      • Fauxlosopher
        February 1, 2011, 3:10 am | #

        Will return. I’m pretty sure that the mortal realm wouldn’t survive a battle like the one they’re going to wage. Ragnarok is the end-of-the-world war. If it had come, we’d have known.

      • Hotduelist
        June 13, 2011, 8:16 pm | #

        I read a book that explained how Ragnarok could have happened. It went along the lines that two humans survived and Baldur survived, becoming the Jesus of christianity

    • Cpt. Obvious
      August 1, 2017, 6:26 pm | # | Reply

      Well you are more likely to run across Ratatoskr than Loki. Did I mention that Ratatoskr is a squirrel? Yep, an immortal squirrel is running up and down that tree. Suck on that squirrel haters.

  2. MAKATTACK
    November 18, 2010, 12:02 am | # | Reply

    NEAT-O

  3. Jim
    November 18, 2010, 12:02 am | # | Reply

    On with the quest .

  4. Ray Radlein
    November 18, 2010, 12:04 am | # | Reply

    Norsemen… in IRELAND? How completely unexpected!

  5. Jaxxreeve
    November 18, 2010, 12:19 am | # | Reply

    Is Ratatosk gnawing at the roots again? Darn that little rodent!

    • The Origami Guy
      November 18, 2010, 2:31 am | # | Reply

      Jaxx? I thought Ratatosk was the “messenger squirrel”..Nidhogg (sp) was the dragon gnawing at Yggdrasil’s roots…

      • eschmenk
        November 18, 2010, 9:35 am | #

        Níðhöggr, to be authentic. The squirrel is Ratatoskr.

      • Typeminer
        November 18, 2010, 6:48 pm | #

        So, what was the name of the moose? And what did he pull out of what kinda hat? o_O

      • Prester Fred
        February 14, 2012, 11:36 am | #

        Roy Scheider: “we’re gonna need a bigger hat…”

    • Jaxxreeve
      November 19, 2010, 11:54 am | # | Reply

      Thanks, got confused there for a bit. Been a while since I’ve read up on Ragnarok

  6. ShadOBabe
    November 18, 2010, 12:19 am | # | Reply

    *blows off all the story developement of this page*
    Hey, Monica’s hair is growing out again. It’ll be to her shoulders before you know it. XD

    • Fatuncle
      November 18, 2010, 12:54 am | # | Reply

      Yes. I find the pixie cut to be prettiest after a month or more, and it isn’t so polished. A little shaggy, some fly-away hairs — looks better.

      • eschmenk
        November 18, 2010, 9:10 am | #

        Um, in this case, I think it went the other way. The pixie cut was kind of short and shaggy. Being a little longer helped soften it. I really didn’t care for the way the hair in front went up and forward shortly after she got it cut and like it this way better.

    • Julie
      November 18, 2010, 8:03 am | # | Reply

      I told eschmenk her hair was longer, but after yesterday’s page he blew it off as just a style thing or temporary change. 😛

      • eschmenk
        November 18, 2010, 9:01 am | #

        Hey! Wednesday it was back to the way it was in the Library. Maybe it’s hairspray or something like that.

      • Julie
        November 18, 2010, 9:32 am | #

        Look again, silly! 🙂 Yesterday’s comic…last panel…her hair is about as long as it looks today. 😛

      • eschmenk
        November 18, 2010, 10:46 am | #

        But here it looks at least as long in back. (Actually, it looks even longer than today.) If you look at the previous page, there seemed to be quite a bit of length in the front and top, too. 😛

      • Julie
        November 18, 2010, 6:40 pm | #

        I disagree. Her hair is one length and squared off in back today, that’s not a look that can be tucked away to taper from skull to neck like in the linked comic. That kind of tapered look is usually due to a tapered cut. Therefore, I say the hair today is longer. 😛

      • eschmenk
        November 18, 2010, 11:04 pm | #

        Do you mean like it was doing yesterday and the day before? 😛 Actually, I’ll agree there seemed to be a fair amount of hair in back in the bottom frame yesterday, but not the rest. I’ll take back the sentence in the parenthesis, above, too.

        Monica’s hair was like today’s already on Monday, so it’s not as if much time passed between the snowstorm and today’s strip.

  7. Bob!
    November 18, 2010, 12:26 am | # | Reply

    Monica is now hoping that the mission is to transplant the “World Tree” to a warmer climate…..

    • Opus the Poet
      November 18, 2010, 11:23 pm | # | Reply

      No! That will lead to real Global Warming 😉 keep it cool.

  8. Fatuncle
    November 18, 2010, 12:52 am | # | Reply

    I think Monica is going to discover something that will be of immense use to her in the future — networking. Other people, other minds, focusing on her problems. Many hands, light work, etc.

  9. D. Walker
    November 18, 2010, 12:56 am | # | Reply

    So my intitial reaction (having deeply studied Norse myth in my youth) was “Oh bollocks, this feels… disjointed and liable to be somewhat off from the real thing once we get into the meat of this subplot.”

    Then I remembered I’m a huge friggen’ dork who had no problem with the Aztec and Mayan whatnot because I’m less well versed in it, and that I’m not here for a history lesson on ancient mythologies, I’m here to read the exploits of the characters I love in the awesomely kookie world they inhabit which is 96% ours, but 4% better.

    So I will now unceremoniously give myself a raspberry and get back to geeking out over one of my favorite stories. Ppppbbbtttttthhh!

    ~D.

    • Kestralyn
      November 18, 2010, 7:33 am | # | Reply

      Don’cha hate having to give yourself a dope smack? 🙂

      I’ve done just enough reading into lots of world mythologies to really get a kick out of the Wapsiverse’s take on them without the truly educated, “Hey! Waitaminnit!” reaction.

      • Julie
        November 18, 2010, 8:07 am | #

        Me too, though I have to admit that if they’d gone deeper into Greek mythology than the Oedipus myth, I’d have given myself the same little talk as D. Walker. 🙂

    • Lustwae
      November 18, 2010, 8:10 am | # | Reply

      Pass the raspberry tart, i seem to find my self in the same boat on this one.

  10. AndrewNZ
    November 18, 2010, 12:59 am | # | Reply

    If you want a celtic cross that shows the crossover between Christian and Norse symbolism, try this photo that I took.

  11. UncleRice
    November 18, 2010, 1:05 am | # | Reply

    >Poit<
    Ok which tree was it?

    • SoWhyMe
      November 18, 2010, 1:17 am | # | Reply

      That’s what I was thinking until I realized she can’t do that, not having been there before. Perhaps a poit to Jin’s place first to secure the services of a master poiter?

      • ouroborus
        November 18, 2010, 2:12 am | #

        I wonder what the range on “having been there is” and how frequently she can do it. Enough visibility and she could get there pretty fast. (Although probably without a bra.)

  12. Bucc-i
    November 18, 2010, 1:10 am | # | Reply

    Yggdrasil my nizzil!

  13. kingklash
    November 18, 2010, 1:57 am | # | Reply

    Is she going to have to deal with Norns?

    • jasse
      November 18, 2010, 12:15 pm | # | Reply

      Am I the only one that hopes for a crossover with Oh My Goddess.

      I bet a fiver that Urd will kick Monicas butt quite a bit.

      • Joe Minotaur
        November 18, 2010, 8:04 pm | #

        I thought of Oh My Goddess as well when Yggdrasil was mentioned in the strip. They are still publishing the manga here in the USA. Music is one of Urd’s weaknesses and there are lots of clubs that Monica could take her to.

  14. Paula
    November 18, 2010, 1:59 am | # | Reply

    i honestly cannot remember why she was so interested in celtic crosses.
    i thought the mission right now was to help jin before she goes nuts completly and distroys the planet in a temper tantrum. how would delving into celtic (or norse) mythology do that?

    • Lily
      November 18, 2010, 3:01 am | # | Reply

      I’m with you. Completely forgot that bit.

    • SoWhyMe
      November 18, 2010, 4:27 am | # | Reply

      Here:
      http://wapsisquare.com/comic/stalling/
      Here:
      http://wapsisquare.com/comic/whadya-say/
      And here:
      http://wapsisquare.com/comic/hold-on-2/

    • Julie
      November 18, 2010, 8:18 am | # | Reply

      You’d probably have to dig farther back in the archives to figure out why Monica’s looking for Lanthian relics, but this is the comic explaining why Celtic crosses… 🙂

      • eschmenk
        November 18, 2010, 9:21 am | #

        The same thing was repeated here. IIRC, there never was any explanation for why Monica thought a Lanthian relic would help with Jin’s problem.

      • Julie
        November 18, 2010, 9:29 am | #

        True…just a suggestion (see my “hint” link below) that normal psychiatric methods probably wouldn’t work given Jin being Jin.

      • eschmenk
        November 18, 2010, 10:26 am | #

        Bud also says that there was nothing biological to work with, implying that the solution would have to be supernatural, in addition to Shelly’s concerns about Jin nuking the psychiatrist’s office.

        WRT, my comments below about multiple links and a spam bucket, I noticed that SoWhyMe‘s comment above seemed to have been caught in one for a while.

      • SoWhyMe
        November 18, 2010, 2:49 pm | #

        Oh, is THAT what it was? I saw my comment was posted and links working on my computer, despite the added line “Waiting for moderation” (or something like that). I guess it only showed up on my computer, leading me to think it might get deleted after moderation, but was up for the time being. At least now I know, thanks.

  15. Joe Minotaur
    November 18, 2010, 2:34 am | # | Reply

    Beware Ragnarok!

    • Fairportfan
      November 18, 2010, 2:53 am | # | Reply

      Tatternarok is pretty annoying, too.

      • Julie
        November 18, 2010, 8:19 am | #

        I’ve always dreaded Scrapnarok myself. 😛

      • txmystic
        November 18, 2010, 9:18 am | #

        Forget it…Clothnarok was the absolute worst…

      • Julie
        November 18, 2010, 9:33 am | #

        Oooo…you do have a point!

      • Fairportfan
        November 18, 2010, 4:40 pm | #

        Yes – but we wear hats to hide it.

      • Joe Minotaur
        November 18, 2010, 8:11 pm | #

        I think this joke is running a little threadbare.

    • eschmenk
      November 18, 2010, 10:37 am | # | Reply

      Yes, it’s frighteningly cute. The thing above “Register Free Online” (sword hilt?) looks especially creepy.

      • Fairportfan
        November 18, 2010, 4:39 pm | #

        Obviously the owner of the sword is a devotee of Hello Cthulhu.

  16. The Old Wolf
    November 18, 2010, 4:48 am | # | Reply

    “One of the stone?” Oh no, the case of the missing “s”! 😛

    • Fatuncle
      November 18, 2010, 9:28 am | # | Reply

      Yeah, I was sort of hoping someone else would point out that it was either “one of the stones‘ or “one stone” before I went all anal ….

      • Joe Minotaur
        November 18, 2010, 8:13 pm | #

        Looks like Paul has “Stones” after all.

  17. jordinyc
    November 18, 2010, 5:25 am | # | Reply

    Hey at least this time we can actually read it, instead of that crazy moonspeak Drinky Smurf spouts sometimes. XD

  18. TheDoctor
    November 18, 2010, 7:53 am | # | Reply

    Well so much for streching out and fillers and such……BACK TO THE STORY! Just One question………..What…IS the Story???

    • jwhouk
      November 18, 2010, 8:03 am | # | Reply

      Jin’s still schizoid-like crazy after they destroyed the calendar machine. Everyone’s a bit concerned.

      • Julie
        November 18, 2010, 9:02 am | #

        Yeah, and the only hint that I could find as to why Mon is looking for Lanthian artifacts among Celtic crosses (see my link in a comment further up to the comic connecting Lanthis and the Celts) is here. It’s possible that she’s just trying to find a supernatural solution since Mayahuel was at Lanthis and invented the first solution to Jin’s crazy (the calendar machine).

        Oh, and in reference to comments a few pages back about Tina’s choker holding her head on…here’s the comic where Monica asked if that was the case, and was told no. 😀

      • Julie
        November 18, 2010, 9:27 am | #

        Hrm…my link to the “hint” comic didn’t show up…let’s try again…

      • eschmenk
        November 18, 2010, 9:54 am | #

        There were doctors who seemed to know more than Maya did in Lantis, too. There should be a lot of stuff written down, so I was surprised to see Monica looking for a relic, rather than books, but we don’t know everything that she has done.

        Can you put two links in a comment without it winding up in a spam bucket? I can’t. Paul approves them, but I try to avoid the situation.

      • eschmenk
        November 18, 2010, 10:08 am | #

        And speaking of books, Jin seemed to think that Tina’s diaries might be helpful, but we haven’t seen Monica check them, either.

      • Fairportfan
        November 18, 2010, 4:38 pm | #

        You know – Tina’s diaries must be in the Library. Whether Nudge could read them or not, i’d bet Phic can.

      • Julie
        November 18, 2010, 6:43 pm | #

        @eschmenk – Two links does = spam bucket, but in the case of my comment here, I’d typed the link code wrong so my link didn’t show at all.

      • Wyvern
        November 18, 2010, 5:17 pm | #

        Pablo has already assured us of the choker’s not for head attachment…but it’s still an amusing running joke.

    • Fairportfan
      November 18, 2010, 8:47 am | # | Reply

      I’ll explain later.

    • Tygr
      November 18, 2010, 3:27 pm | # | Reply

      Morning glory…?

      BTW, how do you make a celtic cross? Tread on his corns?

      And while we’re asking silly questions, why did the Celtic Cross the road? To get to the Nörder side?

  19. ziggy78eog
    November 18, 2010, 8:22 am | # | Reply

    That is still not overly surprising as the Vikings went to Ireland almost as much as England. Where do you think the red hair came from? Hate to break this to you, but that is not native to Ireland.

    • Xenos66
      November 18, 2010, 9:05 am | # | Reply

      Red hair is more of a Celtic/Gaelic thing. I live in an area of Europe that was ethnically linked to the Galatians of Turkey, and there are plenty of redheads here.

      The Romans note it as being present in the Germanic tribes, the Greeks associated with Scythians, and redheads have been found in burials in central Asia (Tocharians), although they might be relocated Scythians.

      • Fatuncle
        November 18, 2010, 9:31 am | #

        At least one of the Pharaohs of Egypt was a redhead – they examined the mummy.

      • Fairportfan
        November 18, 2010, 4:29 pm | #

        Cleopatra was very likely a redhead – the Ptolemys were actually Greek, and tended toward blondes and redheads.

    • bmonk
      November 18, 2010, 12:30 pm | # | Reply

      In the 800s and 900s, the Vikings came close to controlling Ireland a few times. Weren’t definitively defeated until Brian Boru came along in 1016.

  20. msyendor
    November 18, 2010, 9:40 am | # | Reply

    Ah, well. If Yggdrasil was good enough for Odin to hang around, it’s worth Monica’s time to check out. Maybe she’ll bump into the feather caped politico that had Tepoz giggling about fashion statements.

  21. geordie79
    November 18, 2010, 11:47 am | # | Reply

    Hmm, it seems that Monica is moving into the realm of a Supernatural Detective.

  22. Leak
    November 18, 2010, 12:02 pm | # | Reply

    All I really want to know is – where did her tan disappear to?

    • Fairportfan
      November 18, 2010, 4:28 pm | # | Reply

      That wasn’t a tan – it was her normal skin tone; the latina part of her heritage shows pretty strongly there – look at the little pic of her sitting on the menu bar at the head of the page. In colour her hair is a deep auburn that doesn’t usually come across on the strips, too.

      • eschmenk
        November 22, 2010, 10:43 am | #

        Paul has a way of making us look bad the next day, doesn’t he? 😀 I’ve been there, too.

  23. kingklash
    November 18, 2010, 12:07 pm | # | Reply

    Is there any precedent for dealing with the Fae and Aesir at the same time?

    • Opus the Poet
      November 18, 2010, 11:42 pm | # | Reply

      Yes, but you don’t have enough clearance to read it.
      😉

  24. eschmenk
    November 18, 2010, 12:19 pm | # | Reply

    Does anyone know if the Norsemen would have a name like Yggdrasil for themselves? I’m used to them having names like Sven Forkbeard or Eric The Red, or Lief Ericson. Yggdrasil would seem to be a strange name for a person.

    That would be an indication that the stone is really about the tree, rather than a normal gravestone that a tree simply grew around. Of course, Yggdrasil was a tree, too. Perhaps this Yggdrasil was just an object that reminded the Norsemen of Yggdrasil somehow, kind of like naming a weapon or a location.

    • geordie79
      November 18, 2010, 12:40 pm | # | Reply

      Yggdrasil is the name of the World Tree, not a person. Which is why this is interesting as the Celtic cross is surrounded by a tree. Is it Yggdrasil?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yggdrasil

    • Wyvern
      November 18, 2010, 5:24 pm | # | Reply

      I hadn’t thought of it, Eschmenk (and what Geordie79 says is right), but it’s not unthinkable as a nickname. The Norse used handles often (Forkbeard, Bluetooth, etc), and I suppose a tall guy could be called Yggdrasil by his friends.

      For that matter, calling a stone with a tree coming out of it Yggdrasil seems quite reasonable, particularly for Celts with only vague knowledge of Norse culture – yet apparently the stone was marked before the tree grew.

      Either way it’s a curiosity.

  25. Centaur1971
    November 18, 2010, 4:06 pm | # | Reply

    What direction is this cross? Norse by Norse east! 😛

  26. Mike
    November 18, 2010, 4:27 pm | # | Reply

    @ Grrt, Wednesday comes from the Germanic: Wotan’s Day

  27. GEEKONCALL
    November 18, 2010, 5:52 pm | # | Reply

    I have no response to any of this. I’m just an American who’s ancestors came from Canada.

  28. SoWhyMe
    November 18, 2010, 8:37 pm | # | Reply

    So, is the tree growing out of whoever or whatever is buried there?

  29. ShadOBabe
    November 19, 2010, 12:04 am | # | Reply

    *le gasp*
    It’s THREE minutes after midnight and the next one is not posted!?
    How unusual… XD

    • Atomic
      November 19, 2010, 12:15 am | # | Reply

      Make that 15 Minutes after… ???

      • ShadOBabe
        November 19, 2010, 10:54 am | #

        Good grief!!
        It showed up RIGHT after I posted that comment. I wonder what happened with you?

  30. chrisleech
    May 26, 2011, 12:57 am | # | Reply

    wheeeeeeeeeee world tree(Yggdrasil) what’s next the frost giants and the giant dragon(Nidhogg)

  31. stjerne
    March 3, 2012, 2:54 am | # | Reply

    Ok so not certain if anyone else pointed it out but the Vikings invaded Ireland and after looting and plundering the place decided to settle down and live a quiet Christian life. Yip, want to know what killed off the Vikings, Christianity.

  32. GaijinGuy
    May 29, 2012, 5:10 pm | # | Reply

    Actually, another interpretation of Odin’s name is Wotan. So Odin’s Day=Wotan’s Day=Wednesday.

  33. Bratty Roger
    May 17, 2018, 9:54 pm | # | Reply

    I believe there’s at least one city in Ireland that started out as a viking settlement.
    Which could explain why a certain national politician of a skandinavian nation(Sweden❓), a few years ago, looked so much like she had a strong familial relationship to Conan O’brian.

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