Indeed almost every day of the week is in fact derived from a Norse gods name. I believe it was 4,5, or 6 days out of seven that are but its been a while since i studied Norse mythology.
Say rather that the English used the Norse counterparts of the Roman deities (or the seven known planets) associated with each day–which is why Saturday kept its Roman name…
Monday day of the moon,
Tuesday Tyrs day, another Norse god.
Wednesday Odins day
Thursday Tors dag ehr, day.
Friday Frejs day (Frejas brother)
Saturday is from the roman god Saturn. In Sweden it is Lördag which is derived from the name Lögardagen, the day of washing/cleaning yourself in old Norse/Swedish
Sunday, the day of the sun.
So you have got 4 Norse gods, the sun, the moon and for some reason a single roman god. 😛
Will return. I’m pretty sure that the mortal realm wouldn’t survive a battle like the one they’re going to wage. Ragnarok is the end-of-the-world war. If it had come, we’d have known.
I read a book that explained how Ragnarok could have happened. It went along the lines that two humans survived and Baldur survived, becoming the Jesus of christianity
Well you are more likely to run across Ratatoskr than Loki. Did I mention that Ratatoskr is a squirrel? Yep, an immortal squirrel is running up and down that tree. Suck on that squirrel haters.
Um, in this case, I think it went the other way. The pixie cut was kind of short and shaggy. Being a little longer helped soften it. I really didn’t care for the way the hair in front went up and forward shortly after she got it cut and like it this way better.
But here it looks at least as long in back. (Actually, it looks even longer than today.) If you look at the previous page, there seemed to be quite a bit of length in the front and top, too. 😛
I disagree. Her hair is one length and squared off in back today, that’s not a look that can be tucked away to taper from skull to neck like in the linked comic. That kind of tapered look is usually due to a tapered cut. Therefore, I say the hair today is longer. 😛
Do you mean like it was doing yesterday and the day before? 😛 Actually, I’ll agree there seemed to be a fair amount of hair in back in the bottom frame yesterday, but not the rest. I’ll take back the sentence in the parenthesis, above, too.
Monica’s hair was like today’s already on Monday, so it’s not as if much time passed between the snowstorm and today’s strip.
I think Monica is going to discover something that will be of immense use to her in the future — networking. Other people, other minds, focusing on her problems. Many hands, light work, etc.
So my intitial reaction (having deeply studied Norse myth in my youth) was “Oh bollocks, this feels… disjointed and liable to be somewhat off from the real thing once we get into the meat of this subplot.”
Then I remembered I’m a huge friggen’ dork who had no problem with the Aztec and Mayan whatnot because I’m less well versed in it, and that I’m not here for a history lesson on ancient mythologies, I’m here to read the exploits of the characters I love in the awesomely kookie world they inhabit which is 96% ours, but 4% better.
So I will now unceremoniously give myself a raspberry and get back to geeking out over one of my favorite stories. Ppppbbbtttttthhh!
Don’cha hate having to give yourself a dope smack? 🙂
I’ve done just enough reading into lots of world mythologies to really get a kick out of the Wapsiverse’s take on them without the truly educated, “Hey! Waitaminnit!” reaction.
Me too, though I have to admit that if they’d gone deeper into Greek mythology than the Oedipus myth, I’d have given myself the same little talk as D. Walker. 🙂
That’s what I was thinking until I realized she can’t do that, not having been there before. Perhaps a poit to Jin’s place first to secure the services of a master poiter?
I wonder what the range on “having been there is” and how frequently she can do it. Enough visibility and she could get there pretty fast. (Although probably without a bra.)
I thought of Oh My Goddess as well when Yggdrasil was mentioned in the strip. They are still publishing the manga here in the USA. Music is one of Urd’s weaknesses and there are lots of clubs that Monica could take her to.
i honestly cannot remember why she was so interested in celtic crosses.
i thought the mission right now was to help jin before she goes nuts completly and distroys the planet in a temper tantrum. how would delving into celtic (or norse) mythology do that?
You’d probably have to dig farther back in the archives to figure out why Monica’s looking for Lanthian relics, but this is the comic explaining why Celtic crosses… 🙂
Bud also says that there was nothing biological to work with, implying that the solution would have to be supernatural, in addition to Shelly’s concerns about Jin nuking the psychiatrist’s office.
WRT, my comments below about multiple links and a spam bucket, I noticed that SoWhyMe‘s comment above seemed to have been caught in one for a while.
Oh, is THAT what it was? I saw my comment was posted and links working on my computer, despite the added line “Waiting for moderation” (or something like that). I guess it only showed up on my computer, leading me to think it might get deleted after moderation, but was up for the time being. At least now I know, thanks.
Yeah, and the only hint that I could find as to why Mon is looking for Lanthian artifacts among Celtic crosses (see my link in a comment further up to the comic connecting Lanthis and the Celts) is here. It’s possible that she’s just trying to find a supernatural solution since Mayahuel was at Lanthis and invented the first solution to Jin’s crazy (the calendar machine).
There were doctors who seemed to know more than Maya did in Lantis, too. There should be a lot of stuff written down, so I was surprised to see Monica looking for a relic, rather than books, but we don’t know everything that she has done.
Can you put two links in a comment without it winding up in a spam bucket? I can’t. Paul approves them, but I try to avoid the situation.
That is still not overly surprising as the Vikings went to Ireland almost as much as England. Where do you think the red hair came from? Hate to break this to you, but that is not native to Ireland.
Red hair is more of a Celtic/Gaelic thing. I live in an area of Europe that was ethnically linked to the Galatians of Turkey, and there are plenty of redheads here.
The Romans note it as being present in the Germanic tribes, the Greeks associated with Scythians, and redheads have been found in burials in central Asia (Tocharians), although they might be relocated Scythians.
Ah, well. If Yggdrasil was good enough for Odin to hang around, it’s worth Monica’s time to check out. Maybe she’ll bump into the feather caped politico that had Tepoz giggling about fashion statements.
That wasn’t a tan – it was her normal skin tone; the latina part of her heritage shows pretty strongly there – look at the little pic of her sitting on the menu bar at the head of the page. In colour her hair is a deep auburn that doesn’t usually come across on the strips, too.
Does anyone know if the Norsemen would have a name like Yggdrasil for themselves? I’m used to them having names like Sven Forkbeard or Eric The Red, or Lief Ericson. Yggdrasil would seem to be a strange name for a person.
That would be an indication that the stone is really about the tree, rather than a normal gravestone that a tree simply grew around. Of course, Yggdrasil was a tree, too. Perhaps this Yggdrasil was just an object that reminded the Norsemen of Yggdrasil somehow, kind of like naming a weapon or a location.
I hadn’t thought of it, Eschmenk (and what Geordie79 says is right), but it’s not unthinkable as a nickname. The Norse used handles often (Forkbeard, Bluetooth, etc), and I suppose a tall guy could be called Yggdrasil by his friends.
For that matter, calling a stone with a tree coming out of it Yggdrasil seems quite reasonable, particularly for Celts with only vague knowledge of Norse culture – yet apparently the stone was marked before the tree grew.
Ok so not certain if anyone else pointed it out but the Vikings invaded Ireland and after looting and plundering the place decided to settle down and live a quiet Christian life. Yip, want to know what killed off the Vikings, Christianity.
I believe there’s at least one city in Ireland that started out as a viking settlement.
Which could explain why a certain national politician of a skandinavian nation(Sweden❓), a few years ago, looked so much like she had a strong familial relationship to Conan O’brian.
Yggdrasil? Looky out for Loki!!
Hey! It’s Thorsday!
Brfffffft! No, wait — that actually IS clever…
It’s also the actual origin of the day’s modern name 😛
yup, just like Wednesday is a deterioration of “Odin’s Day”
Odin’s Day => Odinsday => Wednesday
Thor’s Day => Thorsday => Thursday
Verified; and Odin is the origin of Wednesday, his name being Woden depending on which culture you speak to, and at which time.
I Frigga I Woden’t post any Balder-dash…
Sif you guys don’t stop this, my belly will get Thor from laughing.
Where i live (Denmark) wednesday is called Onsdag, thats even closer to Odinsday 🙂
Indeed almost every day of the week is in fact derived from a Norse gods name. I believe it was 4,5, or 6 days out of seven that are but its been a while since i studied Norse mythology.
Say rather that the English used the Norse counterparts of the Roman deities (or the seven known planets) associated with each day–which is why Saturday kept its Roman name…
Monday day of the moon,
Tuesday Tyrs day, another Norse god.
Wednesday Odins day
Thursday Tors dag ehr, day.
Friday Frejs day (Frejas brother)
Saturday is from the roman god Saturn. In Sweden it is Lördag which is derived from the name Lögardagen, the day of washing/cleaning yourself in old Norse/Swedish
Sunday, the day of the sun.
So you have got 4 Norse gods, the sun, the moon and for some reason a single roman god. 😛
txmystic, that was the worst pun here yet! Congratulations!
What did Loki have to do with Yggdrasil?
If memory serves, Loki was cast out and returned on the day of Ragnarok, whereupon Ygdrasil was burned by Surt, leader of the fire giants…
Will return. I’m pretty sure that the mortal realm wouldn’t survive a battle like the one they’re going to wage. Ragnarok is the end-of-the-world war. If it had come, we’d have known.
I read a book that explained how Ragnarok could have happened. It went along the lines that two humans survived and Baldur survived, becoming the Jesus of christianity
Well you are more likely to run across Ratatoskr than Loki. Did I mention that Ratatoskr is a squirrel? Yep, an immortal squirrel is running up and down that tree. Suck on that squirrel haters.
NEAT-O
On with the quest .
Norsemen… in IRELAND? How completely
unexpected!Is Ratatosk gnawing at the roots again? Darn that little rodent!
Jaxx? I thought Ratatosk was the “messenger squirrel”..Nidhogg (sp) was the dragon gnawing at Yggdrasil’s roots…
Níðhöggr, to be authentic. The squirrel is Ratatoskr.
So, what was the name of the moose? And what did he pull out of what kinda hat? o_O
Roy Scheider: “we’re gonna need a bigger hat…”
Thanks, got confused there for a bit. Been a while since I’ve read up on Ragnarok
*blows off all the story developement of this page*
Hey, Monica’s hair is growing out again. It’ll be to her shoulders before you know it. XD
Yes. I find the pixie cut to be prettiest after a month or more, and it isn’t so polished. A little shaggy, some fly-away hairs — looks better.
Um, in this case, I think it went the other way. The pixie cut was kind of short and shaggy. Being a little longer helped soften it. I really didn’t care for the way the hair in front went up and forward shortly after she got it cut and like it this way better.
I told eschmenk her hair was longer, but after yesterday’s page he blew it off as just a style thing or temporary change. 😛
Hey! Wednesday it was back to the way it was in the Library. Maybe it’s hairspray or something like that.
Look again, silly! 🙂 Yesterday’s comic…last panel…her hair is about as long as it looks today. 😛
But here it looks at least as long in back. (Actually, it looks even longer than today.) If you look at the previous page, there seemed to be quite a bit of length in the front and top, too. 😛
I disagree. Her hair is one length and squared off in back today, that’s not a look that can be tucked away to taper from skull to neck like in the linked comic. That kind of tapered look is usually due to a tapered cut. Therefore, I say the hair today is longer. 😛
Do you mean like it was doing yesterday and the day before? 😛 Actually, I’ll agree there seemed to be a fair amount of hair in back in the bottom frame yesterday, but not the rest. I’ll take back the sentence in the parenthesis, above, too.
Monica’s hair was like today’s already on Monday, so it’s not as if much time passed between the snowstorm and today’s strip.
Monica is now hoping that the mission is to transplant the “World Tree” to a warmer climate…..
No! That will lead to real Global Warming 😉 keep it cool.
I think Monica is going to discover something that will be of immense use to her in the future — networking. Other people, other minds, focusing on her problems. Many hands, light work, etc.
So my intitial reaction (having deeply studied Norse myth in my youth) was “Oh bollocks, this feels… disjointed and liable to be somewhat off from the real thing once we get into the meat of this subplot.”
Then I remembered I’m a huge friggen’ dork who had no problem with the Aztec and Mayan whatnot because I’m less well versed in it, and that I’m not here for a history lesson on ancient mythologies, I’m here to read the exploits of the characters I love in the awesomely kookie world they inhabit which is 96% ours, but 4% better.
So I will now unceremoniously give myself a raspberry and get back to geeking out over one of my favorite stories. Ppppbbbtttttthhh!
~D.
Don’cha hate having to give yourself a dope smack? 🙂
I’ve done just enough reading into lots of world mythologies to really get a kick out of the Wapsiverse’s take on them without the truly educated, “Hey! Waitaminnit!” reaction.
Me too, though I have to admit that if they’d gone deeper into Greek mythology than the Oedipus myth, I’d have given myself the same little talk as D. Walker. 🙂
Pass the raspberry tart, i seem to find my self in the same boat on this one.
If you want a celtic cross that shows the crossover between Christian and Norse symbolism, try this photo that I took.
>Poit<
Ok which tree was it?
That’s what I was thinking until I realized she can’t do that, not having been there before. Perhaps a poit to Jin’s place first to secure the services of a master poiter?
I wonder what the range on “having been there is” and how frequently she can do it. Enough visibility and she could get there pretty fast. (Although probably without a bra.)
Yggdrasil my nizzil!
Is she going to have to deal with Norns?
Am I the only one that hopes for a crossover with Oh My Goddess.
I bet a fiver that Urd will kick Monicas butt quite a bit.
I thought of Oh My Goddess as well when Yggdrasil was mentioned in the strip. They are still publishing the manga here in the USA. Music is one of Urd’s weaknesses and there are lots of clubs that Monica could take her to.
i honestly cannot remember why she was so interested in celtic crosses.
i thought the mission right now was to help jin before she goes nuts completly and distroys the planet in a temper tantrum. how would delving into celtic (or norse) mythology do that?
I’m with you. Completely forgot that bit.
Here:
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/stalling/
Here:
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/whadya-say/
And here:
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/hold-on-2/
You’d probably have to dig farther back in the archives to figure out why Monica’s looking for Lanthian relics, but this is the comic explaining why Celtic crosses… 🙂
The same thing was repeated here. IIRC, there never was any explanation for why Monica thought a Lanthian relic would help with Jin’s problem.
True…just a suggestion (see my “hint” link below) that normal psychiatric methods probably wouldn’t work given Jin being Jin.
Bud also says that there was nothing biological to work with, implying that the solution would have to be supernatural, in addition to Shelly’s concerns about Jin nuking the psychiatrist’s office.
WRT, my comments below about multiple links and a spam bucket, I noticed that SoWhyMe‘s comment above seemed to have been caught in one for a while.
Oh, is THAT what it was? I saw my comment was posted and links working on my computer, despite the added line “Waiting for moderation” (or something like that). I guess it only showed up on my computer, leading me to think it might get deleted after moderation, but was up for the time being. At least now I know, thanks.
Beware Ragnarok!
Tatternarok is pretty annoying, too.
I’ve always dreaded Scrapnarok myself. 😛
Forget it…Clothnarok was the absolute worst…
Oooo…you do have a point!
Yes – but we wear hats to hide it.
I think this joke is running a little threadbare.
Yes, it’s frighteningly cute. The thing above “Register Free Online” (sword hilt?) looks especially creepy.
Obviously the owner of the sword is a devotee of Hello Cthulhu.
“One of the stone?” Oh no, the case of the missing “s”! 😛
Yeah, I was sort of hoping someone else would point out that it was either “one of the stones‘ or “one stone” before I went all anal ….
Looks like Paul has “Stones” after all.
Hey at least this time we can actually read it, instead of that crazy moonspeak Drinky Smurf spouts sometimes. XD
Well so much for streching out and fillers and such……BACK TO THE STORY! Just One question………..What…IS the Story???
Jin’s still schizoid-like crazy after they destroyed the calendar machine. Everyone’s a bit concerned.
Yeah, and the only hint that I could find as to why Mon is looking for Lanthian artifacts among Celtic crosses (see my link in a comment further up to the comic connecting Lanthis and the Celts) is here. It’s possible that she’s just trying to find a supernatural solution since Mayahuel was at Lanthis and invented the first solution to Jin’s crazy (the calendar machine).
Oh, and in reference to comments a few pages back about Tina’s choker holding her head on…here’s the comic where Monica asked if that was the case, and was told no. 😀
Hrm…my link to the “hint” comic didn’t show up…let’s try again…
There were doctors who seemed to know more than Maya did in Lantis, too. There should be a lot of stuff written down, so I was surprised to see Monica looking for a relic, rather than books, but we don’t know everything that she has done.
Can you put two links in a comment without it winding up in a spam bucket? I can’t. Paul approves them, but I try to avoid the situation.
And speaking of books, Jin seemed to think that Tina’s diaries might be helpful, but we haven’t seen Monica check them, either.
You know – Tina’s diaries must be in the Library. Whether Nudge could read them or not, i’d bet Phic can.
@eschmenk – Two links does = spam bucket, but in the case of my comment here, I’d typed the link code wrong so my link didn’t show at all.
Pablo has already assured us of the choker’s not for head attachment…but it’s still an amusing running joke.
I’ll explain later.
Morning glory…?
BTW, how do you make a celtic cross? Tread on his corns?
And while we’re asking silly questions, why did the Celtic Cross the road? To get to the Nörder side?
That is still not overly surprising as the Vikings went to Ireland almost as much as England. Where do you think the red hair came from? Hate to break this to you, but that is not native to Ireland.
Red hair is more of a Celtic/Gaelic thing. I live in an area of Europe that was ethnically linked to the Galatians of Turkey, and there are plenty of redheads here.
The Romans note it as being present in the Germanic tribes, the Greeks associated with Scythians, and redheads have been found in burials in central Asia (Tocharians), although they might be relocated Scythians.
At least one of the Pharaohs of Egypt was a redhead – they examined the mummy.
Cleopatra was very likely a redhead – the Ptolemys were actually Greek, and tended toward blondes and redheads.
In the 800s and 900s, the Vikings came close to controlling Ireland a few times. Weren’t definitively defeated until Brian Boru came along in 1016.
Ah, well. If Yggdrasil was good enough for Odin to hang around, it’s worth Monica’s time to check out. Maybe she’ll bump into the feather caped politico that had Tepoz giggling about fashion statements.
Hmm, it seems that Monica is moving into the realm of a Supernatural Detective.
All I really want to know is – where did her tan disappear to?
That wasn’t a tan – it was her normal skin tone; the latina part of her heritage shows pretty strongly there – look at the little pic of her sitting on the menu bar at the head of the page. In colour her hair is a deep auburn that doesn’t usually come across on the strips, too.
Paul has a way of making us look bad the next day, doesn’t he? 😀 I’ve been there, too.
Is there any precedent for dealing with the Fae and Aesir at the same time?
Yes, but you don’t have enough clearance to read it.
😉
Does anyone know if the Norsemen would have a name like Yggdrasil for themselves? I’m used to them having names like Sven Forkbeard or Eric The Red, or Lief Ericson. Yggdrasil would seem to be a strange name for a person.
That would be an indication that the stone is really about the tree, rather than a normal gravestone that a tree simply grew around. Of course, Yggdrasil was a tree, too. Perhaps this Yggdrasil was just an object that reminded the Norsemen of Yggdrasil somehow, kind of like naming a weapon or a location.
Yggdrasil is the name of the World Tree, not a person. Which is why this is interesting as the Celtic cross is surrounded by a tree. Is it Yggdrasil?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yggdrasil
I hadn’t thought of it, Eschmenk (and what Geordie79 says is right), but it’s not unthinkable as a nickname. The Norse used handles often (Forkbeard, Bluetooth, etc), and I suppose a tall guy could be called Yggdrasil by his friends.
For that matter, calling a stone with a tree coming out of it Yggdrasil seems quite reasonable, particularly for Celts with only vague knowledge of Norse culture – yet apparently the stone was marked before the tree grew.
Either way it’s a curiosity.
What direction is this cross? Norse by Norse east! 😛
@ Grrt, Wednesday comes from the Germanic: Wotan’s Day
I have no response to any of this. I’m just an American who’s ancestors came from Canada.
So, is the tree growing out of whoever or whatever is buried there?
*le gasp*
It’s THREE minutes after midnight and the next one is not posted!?
How unusual… XD
Make that 15 Minutes after… ???
Good grief!!
It showed up RIGHT after I posted that comment. I wonder what happened with you?
wheeeeeeeeeee world tree(Yggdrasil) what’s next the frost giants and the giant dragon(Nidhogg)
Ok so not certain if anyone else pointed it out but the Vikings invaded Ireland and after looting and plundering the place decided to settle down and live a quiet Christian life. Yip, want to know what killed off the Vikings, Christianity.
Actually, another interpretation of Odin’s name is Wotan. So Odin’s Day=Wotan’s Day=Wednesday.
I believe there’s at least one city in Ireland that started out as a viking settlement.
Which could explain why a certain national politician of a skandinavian nation(Sweden❓), a few years ago, looked so much like she had a strong familial relationship to Conan O’brian.