Ummm.. not to nit-pick (well, yes, actually), wasn’t it established earlier that you can only Poit to somewhere you’ve been before? I presumed M was visiting some Mexican beach she’d visited before. But she hasn’t been to Ireland, so she needs someone to take her there first — perhaps one of the GGs?
What? You think Monica has never been anywhere but Minnesota? IIRC, she has relatives down in Mexico, who is to say that she didn’t visit a place she knew there?
She’s probably been to beaches in the US too ya know. She certainly would not want to go anywhere her Mexican relatives or friends might also frequent.
I doubt Monica has Mexican friends. She was raised in the US, AFAIK. I don’t think she had seen her cousins in a while and I think I remember that she knew Amanda since Kindergarten. She and Yummie Tea were the only two Latinos in her grade school.
Amanda or Kevin might get an assignment there, or Amanda and Monica might decide to take a vacation, or Tepoz might have been there to give them Irish whiskey, or something might come up so they decide not to go or who knows what. Actually, Jin probably has so much money, she wouldn’t mind buying airplane tickets for them, if necessary. As someone pointed out below, Monica might have even been there.
Well, she did poit A out into the middle of Lake Calhoun; it’s not likely she actually had been out directly in the middle of Lake Calhoun. (Yes, this is possible; you can live next to a large body of water and never actually go out on a boat or other conveyance on said body of water.)
One gets the impression that he was pretty much an Indiana Jones type archaeologist, if he was an archaeologist – i just got the impression he was a sort of “tramp royale”…
So, how would she get to Ireland the first time, any way? Multiple high altitude poits until you reach your destination? She best switch out of the short skirt. It’s cold and drafty up there.
ahh but she implied “lovely” tan as in going to the beach for one, snow tans tend to be a much harsher color because the conditions are different, not to mention Amanda knows how much M hates the cold. Plus Monica probably still smells like the ocean, since I know i always do for a day or too after going.
Apparently, there are different definitions. Kramegame was probably using Ocean Breeze scented bodywash or deodorant or something. It’s funny that many people associate Ocean smells with cleanliness, but you obviously don’t.
I don’t know how many beaches you have been to, but the water can vary a lot. One time I drove to beach near Lake Charles, LA and thought, “Ewww!” I can only vaguely remember a beach near Corpus Christi, TX, but I don’t remember it being that bad. I suspect that the “fishy” smell might be from decaying organic stuff.
More on topic, Monica may have never gone in the water. She seems like the type that would be less likely to do that and I suspect that she wasn’t there that long.
I’ve been to beaches in the Gulf and up and down the West Coast. Some were better than others…usually the ones where it was too cold to get in the water.
I realize everyone is betting on Bud, or Jin, but we haven’t seen Tepoztecal in a while, and let’s face it, we’re talking about Ireland…I have a feeling he’s been there a time or thousand….
Okay what about the leprechauns versus Tepoz ? Consider here, he IS the Aztec god of booze. I thinki our side would win by default. DEFAULT OF DE BOOZE!
Amongt our weapons are such diverse items as Pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars and green clovers, and these really great green outfits…
I’ll go out and come in again.
Our three weapons are pink hearts, yellow moons and orange stars….and and green clovers…. Our four weapons are Pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars, and green clovers…and blue diamonds… Our five…no… Amongst our weapons…. Amongst our weaponry…are such elements as pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars… I’ll come in again.”
I hope Lucky Charms never had “green outfit” marshmallow bits. I’m beginning to wonder what they serve you in the monastery. BTW, I know I bumped the numbers up by one, but that’s the way kinglash started it.
I wonder if you guys remember that she’s part Irish. Her parents might have taken her to Ireland in her early years to learn her heritage, just like they did when they took here to Mexico. Ya know, just saying. >.>
Well, Brandi would give us the African connection, and Jin seems of Asian extraction … although of course, they both may derive from now extinct bloodlines that don’t actually fit those modern pigeonholes.
I wonder…does anyone here know when it’s appropriate to use the term “Oriental” instead of “Asian”? I once had a teacher who said that “Oriental is for rugs and spices…nothing else,” but I don’t know how true that is considering how much I hear people use it otherwise.
In the movie Jumper, all that was needed to go somewhere was a photograph of the destination. The transport cloth Bud destroyed would be a variation on that – an image one could home in on, regardless of where the image might be.
Monica seems to have poited Amanda into the lake using nothing more than a photo pinned on the cork board as a guide.
“Monica seems to have poited Amanda into the lake using nothing more than a photo pinned on the cork board as a guide.”
I don’t think so. She’s been to the lake and is familiar with it. It’s not that big. So essentially she’s already been where she poited Amanda. The photo was just something that gave her the idea. (It would be a pretty random idea, otherwise.)
Paul seemed to endorse jwhouk’s interpretation:
When Monica made the offer to Amanda, the reaction wasn’t what she expected. She was hurt, fearful, and then she saw her postcard of Lake Calhoun on her bulletin board. And that’s when her plan came together – “I’ll dunk Amanda for just a few seconds, and THEN we’ll talk about who’s crazy.”
(That’s from a little above this comment.) That’s the way I read it, too.
I’ll also disagree that the portal cloth was the same sort of thing. A photograph of a destination represents a specific, static place, but is at the departure point. The design on the cloth is the destination, but it’s movable, so it doesn’t have a connection to a static place. To me, it’s much more like a functional device that happens to be somewhere than a location or a representation of a place.
I completely missed that comment; thanks for pointing it out. Carefully making a note.
As for the portal cloth, I did mean just what you said, but obviously didn’t say it clearly – an image to home on, regardless of where it might be or whether or not it was in motion.
Keep in mind Fairportfan‘s comment about the person initiating a poit having a pattern in mind, and his example of how Monica retrieved Topez, even though she did not know his location. She knew him, his pattern.
Also, two possible exceptions: Jin poit-ing things to a place where even she didn’t know where they had gone, and just now, Monica dropping tons of snow on the Spoiled Princess. Is it possible to poitmail something to a destination of random chance, or is there some backstory to these events we don’t know yet?
I missed Fairportfan’s comment, but it doesn’t seem to me that the visual aspect would be all that important in this comic. Speaking generally, Paul seems to be thinking about emotions a lot. It seems to me that poiting would require a deeper connection with what it being poited and where it is going than what you would get with only one of the six senses.
Come to think of it, here is an example. I don’t think Monica had actually seen the gunmen. She knew they existed and was thinking about them, so that’s why she poited to them. Of course, visualizing something helps us remember everything about the thing, so it’s all connected.
That seems to be more in line with how poiting works when you’re looking for someone or trying to poit a person/object to you. Actually taking yourself to a physical location without a person you know already there seems to require knowledge of the place (though I imagine going somewhere new just by honing in on someone you know would be more than a little risky).
The portal cloth wasn’t related to the poiting, too. Maybe I’m confusing what you’re saying, but the cloth is a doorway to the sister cloth and not a tool to aid poiting (which is why Monica used it/them to travel to the second cloth’s location and then poited home).
Then again, I’m not entirely sure how it all works when we’ve seen Bud come through the portal tattoo without any suggestion that she had the other cloth with her to connect them… *is confused now*
People have been thinking that maybe Jin could take Monica to Ireland, she might not be welcome there. I’m not sure exactly what happened, but apparently she ran into Saint Patrick when she was in her animal form and must have really ticked him off.
Monica’s travel agency . No dealing with the TSA .
And friends fly free.
Of course, whether your clothes arrive in the same place and locations as the rest of you is still subject to debate and experimentation….
*Lol* Yeah, I know, but I did. Thanks Stjen!
Depending on who you travel with, and how remote the beach is, this is a problem??
I just had a image of her poiting with her boyfriend of some other guy and there is another wardrobe malfunction!
Yeah Monica. When you can go on vacation THAT easily, you better take some friends now and again. XD
Any body need sunscreen applied to the hard to reach places?
Giggity .
Oh, lord… XD
That’s why they’ve got each other.
Ummm.. not to nit-pick (well, yes, actually), wasn’t it established earlier that you can only Poit to somewhere you’ve been before? I presumed M was visiting some Mexican beach she’d visited before. But she hasn’t been to Ireland, so she needs someone to take her there first — perhaps one of the GGs?
Cue Bud in 5… 4…
You are correct. But don’t put the cart before the horse.
What? You think Monica has never been anywhere but Minnesota? IIRC, she has relatives down in Mexico, who is to say that she didn’t visit a place she knew there?
That’s what they said.
“I presumed M was visiting some Mexican beach she’d visited before.”
She’s probably been to beaches in the US too ya know. She certainly would not want to go anywhere her Mexican relatives or friends might also frequent.
I doubt Monica has Mexican friends. She was raised in the US, AFAIK. I don’t think she had seen her cousins in a while and I think I remember that she knew Amanda since Kindergarten. She and Yummie Tea were the only two Latinos in her grade school.
Well… you expect me to read the comments that I’m replying to?
crawls away in embarrisment
Perhaps a business trip to Ireland for the museum?
Amanda or Kevin might get an assignment there, or Amanda and Monica might decide to take a vacation, or Tepoz might have been there to give them Irish whiskey, or something might come up so they decide not to go or who knows what. Actually, Jin probably has so much money, she wouldn’t mind buying airplane tickets for them, if necessary. As someone pointed out below, Monica might have even been there.
I would still say Jin since she has been around for so long and has probably traveled all over the world doing her thing the past 56 times.
Mind you, Paul will probably come up with a totally different slant on how it can be done, no one here thought of. He always seems to do that.
Maybe Google Earth is close enough?
Dur, or have the library open it’s door in dublin, duh.
I like that idea.
One word: L-Space
Oook.
Eek!
Ooo-eee-ooh-aahh-aahh-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang!
Is it safe to monkey around in L-Space? Oh! No! I didn’t mean to say … Aaagh!
I just Googled L-Space and this was the first thing found.
http://www.lspace.com/lookbook.php
OMG! This can’t be right.
GEEKONCALL: LOL it’s better than the boring ‘science bit’ though…
my results get discworld….
ook!!
unless I set ‘last 24 hrs’ .. :/
Well, she did poit A out into the middle of Lake Calhoun; it’s not likely she actually had been out directly in the middle of Lake Calhoun. (Yes, this is possible; you can live next to a large body of water and never actually go out on a boat or other conveyance on said body of water.)
But she had a least seen it. I think it more a matter of how familiar you are with the area, rather than actually having been right there.
IIRC, Monica’s Grandfather was an Irish archeologist…. Perhaps she has family that she’s visited there?
One gets the impression that he was pretty much an Indiana Jones type archaeologist, if he was an archaeologist – i just got the impression he was a sort of “tramp royale”…
So, how would she get to Ireland the first time, any way? Multiple high altitude poits until you reach your destination? She best switch out of the short skirt. It’s cold and drafty up there.
She could always use conventional transportation for the first trip…
That’s boring and expensive.
it’s snow tan!
I’ve known a few people who got that. Usually right in a line between the goggles and the hat… It was very amusing back in high school.
ahh but she implied “lovely” tan as in going to the beach for one, snow tans tend to be a much harsher color because the conditions are different, not to mention Amanda knows how much M hates the cold. Plus Monica probably still smells like the ocean, since I know i always do for a day or too after going.
Define ocean smell…my experience with it has always been overly fishy and salty…two scents I would not want lingering on me.
Apparently, there are different definitions. Kramegame was probably using Ocean Breeze scented bodywash or deodorant or something. It’s funny that many people associate Ocean smells with cleanliness, but you obviously don’t.
I don’t know how many beaches you have been to, but the water can vary a lot. One time I drove to beach near Lake Charles, LA and thought, “Ewww!” I can only vaguely remember a beach near Corpus Christi, TX, but I don’t remember it being that bad. I suspect that the “fishy” smell might be from decaying organic stuff.
More on topic, Monica may have never gone in the water. She seems like the type that would be less likely to do that and I suspect that she wasn’t there that long.
I’ve been to beaches in the Gulf and up and down the West Coast. Some were better than others…usually the ones where it was too cold to get in the water.
She might smell more like fruity umbrella drinks than the sea – at least, her breath (apparently, she ‘dove’ into them more than into the ocean).
Define ocean smell… ?? I think you may be too near the harbor…
My ocean smells more like salty seaweed, wet wood…
Salty seaweed is still not a scent I’d want lingering.
Sailors call the “Ocean smell” a “land smell”; the open ocean has a very different smell than the coast…
I realize everyone is betting on Bud, or Jin, but we haven’t seen Tepoztecal in a while, and let’s face it, we’re talking about Ireland…I have a feeling he’s been there a time or thousand….
i forsee leprechauns
Nobody foresees the Leprechaun Exposition!
Okay, that’s it, you’re getting… THE COMFY CHAIR!
Begorra, no! Not the … Comfy Chait!
Okay what about the leprechauns versus Tepoz ? Consider here, he IS the Aztec god of booze. I thinki our side would win by default. DEFAULT OF DE BOOZE!
Think, not thinki. Too many drinkies.
At the Bibliothinki?
I meant to type “Leprechaunish Exposition”.
Grrr.
Yes, but I also wouldn’t expect a Leprechaun to expose himself. Perverts!
What would be their three main weapons?
Pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars, and green clovers.
Four! Four main weapons of the Leprechaun Exposition!
Amongt our weapons are such diverse items as Pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars and green clovers, and these really great green outfits…
I’ll go out and come in again.
“Amongst”–but I did LOL for this thread!
Our three weapons are pink hearts, yellow moons and orange stars….and and green clovers…. Our four weapons are Pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars, and green clovers…and blue diamonds… Our five…no… Amongst our weapons…. Amongst our weaponry…are such elements as pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars… I’ll come in again.”
I hope Lucky Charms never had “green outfit” marshmallow bits. I’m beginning to wonder what they serve you in the monastery. BTW, I know I bumped the numbers up by one, but that’s the way kinglash started it.
NOBODY FORSEES…oh, damn!
ARTEMIS FOWL LEP Recons
Yes, Yes, Yes. She did spend some time where it is warm (and sunny) in November.
The tan isn’t just the only lovely thing about her.
I wonder if you guys remember that she’s part Irish. Her parents might have taken her to Ireland in her early years to learn her heritage, just like they did when they took here to Mexico. Ya know, just saying. >.>
I’m part Irish, and my parents would never have even thought to take me there.
My step dad was Irish, and that’s all he could ever talk about going to. XP
Dad said that his uncle visited the Old Country (Bohemia, then part of Czechoslovakia), went to his father’s home town …
…and nobody remembered him.
Otherwise, he said, it was quite interesting.
Sometimes this really needs to be in colour.
I can never remember which email I used for this
My computer always remembers for me.
Sticky notes. They hold the front panel on my tower.
Best thing about winter tans… winter tanlines. Even if you cant see them, you can guess!
No mention about hearing of a cruise ship getting a years supply of snow cone ice all at once!
So excited about anything with Norse mythology. (I used to be moderately obsessed
)
All the recent escape imagery makes me even more excited about taking a vacation! I love the inbetween scenes as much as the main storylines.
Agreed. And Yggdrasil? With Mayan mythology? I love you so much, Paul.
I want to go back to Ireland now. :<
I suppose now all we need is some sort of Oriental and African mythology connection to make it all complete.
Well, Brandi would give us the African connection, and Jin seems of Asian extraction … although of course, they both may derive from now extinct bloodlines that don’t actually fit those modern pigeonholes.
I wonder…does anyone here know when it’s appropriate to use the term “Oriental” instead of “Asian”? I once had a teacher who said that “Oriental is for rugs and spices…nothing else,” but I don’t know how true that is considering how much I hear people use it otherwise.
Basement girl? I thought Tina was that? (with that Dia de los Muertos spook in her basement…)
Monica’s office is in the basement, i believe.
Well what are you waiting, Go give it a visit, and take us along for the ride.
In the movie Jumper, all that was needed to go somewhere was a photograph of the destination. The transport cloth Bud destroyed would be a variation on that – an image one could home in on, regardless of where the image might be.
Monica seems to have poited Amanda into the lake using nothing more than a photo pinned on the cork board as a guide.
“Monica seems to have poited Amanda into the lake using nothing more than a photo pinned on the cork board as a guide.”
I don’t think so. She’s been to the lake and is familiar with it. It’s not that big. So essentially she’s already been where she poited Amanda. The photo was just something that gave her the idea. (It would be a pretty random idea, otherwise.)
Paul seemed to endorse jwhouk’s interpretation:
(That’s from a little above this comment.) That’s the way I read it, too.
I’ll also disagree that the portal cloth was the same sort of thing. A photograph of a destination represents a specific, static place, but is at the departure point. The design on the cloth is the destination, but it’s movable, so it doesn’t have a connection to a static place. To me, it’s much more like a functional device that happens to be somewhere than a location or a representation of a place.
I completely missed that comment; thanks for pointing it out. Carefully making a note.
As for the portal cloth, I did mean just what you said, but obviously didn’t say it clearly – an image to home on, regardless of where it might be or whether or not it was in motion.
Keep in mind Fairportfan‘s comment about the person initiating a poit having a pattern in mind, and his example of how Monica retrieved Topez, even though she did not know his location. She knew him, his pattern.
Also, two possible exceptions: Jin poit-ing things to a place where even she didn’t know where they had gone, and just now, Monica dropping tons of snow on the Spoiled Princess. Is it possible to poitmail something to a destination of random chance, or is there some backstory to these events we don’t know yet?
“Blue jaunte” – Alfred Bester, The Stars My Destination.
I missed Fairportfan’s comment, but it doesn’t seem to me that the visual aspect would be all that important in this comic. Speaking generally, Paul seems to be thinking about emotions a lot. It seems to me that poiting would require a deeper connection with what it being poited and where it is going than what you would get with only one of the six senses.
Come to think of it, here is an example. I don’t think Monica had actually seen the gunmen. She knew they existed and was thinking about them, so that’s why she poited to them. Of course, visualizing something helps us remember everything about the thing, so it’s all connected.
That seems to be more in line with how poiting works when you’re looking for someone or trying to poit a person/object to you. Actually taking yourself to a physical location without a person you know already there seems to require knowledge of the place (though I imagine going somewhere new just by honing in on someone you know would be more than a little risky).
The portal cloth wasn’t related to the poiting, too. Maybe I’m confusing what you’re saying, but the cloth is a doorway to the sister cloth and not a tool to aid poiting (which is why Monica used it/them to travel to the second cloth’s location and then poited home).
Then again, I’m not entirely sure how it all works when we’ve seen Bud come through the portal tattoo without any suggestion that she had the other cloth with her to connect them… *is confused now*
People have been thinking that maybe Jin could take Monica to Ireland, she might not be welcome there. I’m not sure exactly what happened, but apparently she ran into Saint Patrick when she was in her animal form and must have really ticked him off.
Brilliant!
That would certainly explain the legend of St. Patrick ridding Ireland of snakes, wouldn’t it?