Stir plot, and thicken!
It’s that “plot flour” somebody suggested a few months ago. Or, possibly, a bit of okra… makes a nice thick goopy plot-gumbo.
If Shelly’s correct, whatever happened to Tina 1.0 was deliberate rather than purely an accident. But, was it a Good deliberate or a Bad deliberate?
So Shelly’s demons were blocking Shelly’s Doorway and Tina’s Doorway while Tina’s demons were out. Tina’s demons were chasing Monica who by design or not run in front of a bus and was dead for a short period of time. And unfortunately Tina 1.0’s died from hitting the bus from behind when it stopped to not it Monica.
Tina 1.0 departed her body. Normally personal demons would return to Demon World when the host died. But Tina’s Doorway was being blocked by Shelly’s Demons. So Tina’s Demons were preven’t from return to Demon World. Tina’s Demons alway through Tina 1.0 and Monica dying broke the rules, and so got bound up on space/time (and possibly Calendar Cycles), lost most of their memories, and wound up stuck inside of Tina 1.0s body lying in the morgue until Nudge “nudged” the collective to become Tina 2.0.
*plink, plinks * Drops a few pieces of ate in to the pun jar.
second panel, first bubble is Paul’s impatience talking
wha???? Thoroughly confused
Connie is not amused….
There’s a comfy chair over here in Confusion Corner. Come join us!
~looks at confusion corner, listens to convo between Selly and Connie, looks back at corner smiles and goes to Mucho Moca~
Nope, Doctor gave us an upgrade. Watch yourself when sitting on the beanbag in the back, may surprise you where you end up ….
That corner must be as big as the Coliseum by now.
oops replied to wrong one – see above 😀
Aleister Crow- I brought cookies but, I think I may need a lot more for this crowd
. . .
I am the “Key Master”!
And she is the gate keeper… (but she DEFINITELY doesn’t look like Rick Moranis.)
Sigourney Weaver was the Gate Keeper. 😉
Easy to remember, once you spot the obvious phallic imagery they used, which was appropo considering the type of ancient myth they were representing. Key Master is male, Gate Keeper is female, KM puts their “key” in the GK’s “gate” … and hence why they were all sprawled out on the roof and looking flushed.
But now here’s the real brain buster.
Try to get the image of Rick Moranis doing THAT to Sigourney Weaver out of your head.
Today’s special is brain bleach, we carry it by the drum. 😀
There is no Sigourney Weaver, only Zuul.
The implications of this conversation makes my brain hurt. I’ll take a gallon please. BLEACH!
Were told, by whom? Shellinx via Nudge? Phix? Some other demons? Father Christmas?
Also, possibly of interest… a possible contradiction or inconsistency. Last week, Connie said that she had none of her earlier demon memories, but that she “remembered the rules.”
But, back a couple of years ago when Connie introduced herself to Shelly, she specifically said that she wasn’t bound by the demons’ rules (presumably due to her new “fused” nature).
Will be interesting to learn just what her rules and boundaries are, to what extent she’s a free agent and to whom if anyone she must answer for her actions.
As with Tina, a lot of possible character depth available here!
She remembers the demon rules, just as Tina does, although no other memories. Main difference, conscience doesn’t have to follow the rules.
What Paul said.
It’s like the speed limit signs I see at my apartment complex. It’s private property, so the police can’t enforce them. The management can’t afford to hire groundskeepers that would actually monitor that sort of thing either. Really, it’s just another thing they can throw at you in a list of complaints if you are known to regularly speed through there and happen to be someone they are trying to get rid of for whatever reasons.
So typically it would hold no sort of actual meaning to me. But because I know it’s a good idea, for me and my neighbors – I obey it anyway, and encourage others to do the same. There are kids running around here, why not just play it safe?
Connie made her independence of the rules clear upon her introduction to her creator at Shelly’s bedside. (And you’d have to know the rules to know you were free of them.)
But… in that conversation she also was clear she knows everything Shelly is thinking. So that means her berating Shelly in panel one is another attempt at distraction, since Shelly never meant any of that, and she ought to know.
Argumentum ad personam, no less. That’s what Shelly is smiling at.
And, her smiles yesterday and today might also have a bit to do with an evening of the balance between these two. Connie had a huge one-up on Shelly from the beginning… she knew everything Shelly did, but was a mystery to Shelly except to the extent she chose to reveal herself.
Shelly’s now showing that she, too, can understand the situation, by thought and experience and logic and intuition. She has puzzled out some hidden truths about Tina, despite Connie’s repeated attempts to deflect and distract.
Powerful stuff… and that she’s doing it, shows how much she has grown from the Time Forest experience and from what happened with Justin. Working things through intellectually didn’t used to be her way.
So where did Tina’s soul end up then?
Here is an idea: If some religions are correct then the soul is recycled only without the conscious memory of its past. If that is true then we might just have an answer to the old plot thread of the little girl looking at the plasma wake that destroyed Lanthis that is part of Jin’s memories.
These girls are starting too look to similar. It gets hard keeping them apart.
We make our demons in our own image?
Conscience looks like Shelly when she was a young girl.
Which is kinda what it’s supposed to be, right, Pablo?
Shelly did point out, “Hey, you look like me!” So, yeah.
Hey Paul. Have you always had the idea to call her ‘Conscience’ or is that something the readers have provided?
I’M just glad nobody has tried to call her Jiminy Cricket…..
Jiminy Cranky, you mean…
Then why do they have completely different noses?
(That was a reply to Paul’s post…)
Cartilage continues to grow through our lives, unlike bone. Noses and ears get larger; This may not apply to beings that can exist for 80,000 years, or are spontaneous creations of trans-literal amalgama-thingies.
A.K.A. baby Shellinx. So cute! 🙂
Shelly IS seeing two Connies there. Otherwise the quantum mechanics bit wouldn’t have been worked in.
Ahh… so quantum uncertainty explains why her hair has that particular wave!
Pun jar. Now.
(deposits a bust of Werner Heisenberg, beautifully cast out of mu metal)
That comment fulfilled 100% of my morning chuckle requirement. Thank you!
Time out, jwhouk — attempting to stick someone with a pun makes them the punjabi, and Shelly is the wrong kind of Indian for that!
Tsk, tsk, you should know better.
I’d think that I’d drop in a particle, but I’m not sure of it’s position, since I know the momentum it needs to arrive.
@bmonk… that’s why I referred to a “particular wave”. If Paul is going to invoke the weirdness of quantum mechanics in his strip (and I guess that Shelly is now a quantum mechanic?), we really should bring both the particle and wave aspects of Connie’s hair into view at the same time, right?
That’s why I just waved it toward the jar. But it’s demonically tough to see both wave and particle at the same time.
Hmmm. I wonder if anyone has entangled two wavicles and then measured one each simultaneously as wave and particle?
I believe that running that particular experiment is in the same category as having Tina stick a spear through somebody’s heart. A severe Reality Fault Interrupt occurs, time stops, and everything just sits there with the ERROR light glowing until somebody from outside the continuum comes along to reset the fault and get time started again.
It’s one of those things that are Just Not Done in a proper, well-behaved Universe.
Today’s Abstruse Goose has an interesting explanation for why it works that way.
Unless Shelly has been working on 30-year-old Volkswagens.
:drops a small collection of error coins into the Pun Jar:
Forever the angry little girl.
Angry, and sardonic wise-ass do seem to be her most common surface presentations. Both seem to be consistent with what we know about the troubled young Shelly at the time of her vision quest and near-death, when Connie was created.
Considering that both of them have 80k years of “life” experience, I sorta suspect that there are depths to Connie that we haven’t been shown yet.
The fact that she originally identified herself as “conscience” implies a lot… morality, empathy, responsibility, sense of what’s right and wrong… if these are actually significant parts of her makeup they might come into play in some interesting ways given her demonic nature.
I,d bet Connie,s angry defensive demeanor is because she really didn’t want Shelly to figure out her role in all this. Deals were made with demons. Plans were put into motion. People did things they weren’t proud of for the greater good. All the threads are interconnected and I smell Brandi’s hand in this. Or I could be barking up the wrong tree.
Yes, well.. the new Shelly is proving much more insightful than the one who hadn’t spent millenia meditating under a tree… it’s hard to slip things past her…
She’s a Sphinx. She’d been fighting her basic nature since her return from the time forrest, trying to hold on to her old self. The scene earlier with Justin where she says all emotion is transitory and this scene shows that the training with Phix has taken. She’s embraced her true nature as an apex predator. More than anything, predators have to be observers. The have to seek out even the smallest change in detail, the slightest sign of weakness, or they don’t eat. A lion has to be more agile, both physicaly and mentaly, than a gazelle. Apply those instincts and skills of observation to a human level intelect and you have a person like Shelly who could be damn near claivoyant when she wants to be. Reconciling her human experinces with her 80k in the forrest seems to have resulted in a whole new Shellinix.
Poor kid doesn’t age. So 80,000 years later she’s still an adolescent being surly to adults.
…Shelly’s demons got hit by Tina’s exiting soul. The resulting collision caused the demons and soul to fuse into… “Conscience 1.0 (beta)”
I think the idea was to stop the demons from leaving after the soul had left, thereby forming Tina 2.0.
Ooo…looks like there will be some excellent specials in Confusion Corner this week! 😉
*plops down on the couch with a cup of black currant iced tea and some berries.*
You’re late. Lucky we saved you a seat 😉
I brought a sleeping bag and a six pack, because I think I’ll be here for awhile.
*comes out of a two-man tent with a couple of MRE’s*
Be here for a while… hell, I never left!
GP tiny. : )
As a small contribution – I’ll bring two 20Lb. bags of “green” coffee beans – one of Jamaica Blue – the other of Sumatra – and my own Bean roaster . I’ll also bring a pair of 2 cup size percolators . Please bring your own cups – that way I don’t have to wash them afterwards.
Is that entirely fair, setting up a coffee urn which competes with Mucho Mocha’s main business? I realize you’ll save money that way, but I’m not sure it’s the best route to a penny urned…
(drops a tip in the Pun Jar)
Last panel: I see that expression and body language from Vellie* every couple of days…
*My 4-year-old granddauighter, for any who don’t know
It’s cute when you don’t need to take it seriously.
Connie blocked Shelly’s doorway but didn’t make it to Tina in time and that’s how Nudge got in.
Hmmm.. and Jin was where again?
And.. who told her to do that??
Jin, Brandy and Bud did not arrive on the scene until Tepoz summoned them. Monica, Tina and Shelly’s incidents happened years before that.
However, Jin was involved in both – she tackled Monica out of the way of the bus and appeared to Shelly as Toctli.
It was Nudge that appeared to Shelly during her vision quest.
Jin showed up later as a rabbit.
Although Jin is a Golem, she’s had a lot more autonomy then the other GGs. She was off finding and arranging the pieces in order fix the Calendar Machine.
Ok… Now I’m confused!!!
Just remember to bring something when you come meet us in the Confusion Corner.
I brought some MRE coffee, and MRE gum (which, in and emergency, can be used as a laxative!).
And which, after chewing, can be used as a carefully-applied cheek adhesive to help you hold it until you can get the latrine pit dug. 😮
OK, I think I just grossed myself out.
She looks cute when she glowers.
*gives her a kiss*
What with the multiple actors (Monica, Shelly, Tina, their souls, their various demons singular and grouped and fused, Jin, Nudge, Shellinx?, Brandi?) and the complex interactions which occurred on that fateful day, and the talk about demons acting on a quantum level, I’m beginning to think we may need a really big chalkboard and the world’s most elaborate Feynman diagram to actually describe what took place.
The chalkboard Tina uses to advertise today’s baked goodies is nowhere near large enough.
What do you think I was doing over the weekend?
Comics are already the best storyboards.
And with all respect to Paul, if Henson is going to get into productions like that, they can bring back FarScape first.
I hope we don’t have to figure how to account for virtual demons… I have no idea how to renormalize them 🙁
Hit them with a SQUID – Sub-Quantum Interferometry Device. Causes the wave and particle uncertainty to collapse to a single observable event. And, so far, hasn’t caused time to stop – although the number of REAL demons they’ve tested it on is questionable….. ;P
Seriously, I do have a few hundred words typed out from this weekend. It mostly speculates that the demon covens we associate with Tina, Shelly and Monica were assigned to different girls in that set, and that their deaths allowed or forced them to swap hosts.
But I’m waiting to see what the story shows.
As for quantum states, it seems that the wave function of demons collapses when sphinxes catch them, or when demons directly impact the capacity of souls to pursue their own quantum path. They find themselves trapped in time and space; the punishment fits the crime.
Last panel – Connie’s got the same expression on her face that my little sister used to get when you either told her she was wrong or had to do something she didn’t wanna do. A stubborn, dig-your-heels-in, dagger-glaring pout. I always sorta imagined seeing steam trickling out of her ears and nose!
And speaking of demons…..I went back a bit in Wapsitime and found this:
Since Tina’s demons were obviously fond of her, could Tina (or Phix or someone/thing) be harboring a dormant “Tinasoul” until her demons were ready to add her to the mix? And maybe be a better person(?)(persona?) than she was as a drug lord’s/ mobster’s daughter????
Everyone deserves a second chance.
Heres a question: How is it after all this time some ‘Mobster/ Gang member’ hasn’t walked into and then out of the coffee shop, made a call to say “Boss, I think your Daughter is alive and living in Minneapolis” ? ….. Unless MIB wiped their minds.
Wood youse wanna be da one to tell da boss dat his kids body is missin’ from da funeral parlor?? If she wuz Daddy’s Princess (I know a few!) he might be REAL pissed off and start pointin’ fingers (& firearms). ‘Sides dey might be VERY superstitous about any missin’ body dat dey didn’t have nuttin’ do about bein’ dead, either.
(I’m Italian – I can make fun of the Mob if I wanna!)
We know only this. Tina’s father could be anywhere by this time, alive or dead. (We haven’t even seen Shelly’s dad in a while!) So yes, this is a known dangling plot hook.
Maybe its the Long hair but Shelly looks and acts more calm, responsible and mature since she realised what she is. Yeah, Shelly looks like her Mom.;)
Connie only remembers the rules, but nothing else. What happens if Shelly figures out what happened and Connie remembers everything? Is that a possibly dangerous situation for her and or Shelly? Tina 2.0 was kinda threatened not to remember or bad things might happen and it was a very pointed argument.
I don’t think Tina was “threatened” into not REMEMBERING, but more along the lines of “it’s better for you in the long run” to NOT GO DIGGING after info about WHY she can’t remember. http://wapsisquare.com/comic/relish-your-ignorance/ and re-reading that strip, it’s clear that she’s serving one punishment for the “hurting a human” crime, and she seems to have squeaked by on a technicality over a second one, those “ideas” Phix is talking about… and THAT is what Phix is saying (threatening, really) that she’s better of NOT knowing about.
Shelly is getting a new handle on Connie, and maybe finding out how to help Tina in the process. I wonder if a visit to Nudge is in order?
Sorry to have come so late to the confusion corner…I bring hot coffee and a chocolate cake with a salted caramel filling as an offering!
You know, in exchange for an Escherian expansion of the available space…
Soooooooo, thank goodness Shellinx mentioned that quantum dislocation property that would have allowed Connie to block wither Shelly’s soul or Tina’s, but I guess my question is similar to everyone’s…who instructed her to do so, and was her decision to save Shelly’s soul her own choice? Or coercion? Which?
Well, Phix has been talking like she was in on Tina’s creation…
Shelly looks so at peace, while Connie is experiencing all the drama.
Looks like I’ll be joining the Confusion Corner. I made brownies. Some are normal, some are… um… hash…
Unfortunately, I didn’t label or separate them, and have forgotten which are which…
I also brought chocolate-chunk cookies, and they are normal, and so are these cases of the Dark Knight Rises Mt. Dew. I can get some alcohol if anybody wants.
Oh! And I almost forgot these graham crackers, marshmallows, and chocolate (dark and milk)!
*pulls out tent, portable couch, and portable camp-fire equipment, gets fire going, pulls out sticks for marshmallow roasting*
(And please eat the brownies… I made a lot… :D)
I suppose a proper respect for tradition requires saying a happy Oh Wow!
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