Traditional golems, yes, but the materials have diversified since D&D. You could have a depleted uranium golem if you wanted.
The Wapsiverse is not traditional. There’s an ancient blackthorn/human hybrid and you’re freaking out over a metal golem?
@Treesong
Yeah, D&D really put some diversity into golems. I once rigged up an underground dungeon where a passage was bisected by a large natural cavern. In the cavern was a natural deposit of petrolium, still boiling its way to eventually become crude oil. I also had a bridge built across the cavern to link the split passageway back together. the passage & bridge were not very far over the top surface of the bubbling petrolium, so the bridge did indeed get a layer of the stuff splattered all over it so footing was uncertain & there were no safety rails built with it.
Barermender: yes, that is true. However, D&D added a lot to golems, though the idea of expanded golems is hardly new. Frankenstein’s Monster could be considered a flesh golem, for example. D&D brought the idea of golems and various kinds of golems to a wider audience. It adapted from many mythologies and literatures. Halflings are named such because the Tolkien estate owns the trademark for Hobbit. It pulled from Lovecraft, and various religions, including Judaism. So the idea of Daylla being a metal golem isn’t very farfetched. Add to that the fact that while THE Golem is Jewish, the IDEA of golems aren’t. Aren’t Bud, Brandi, and Jin golems, and named such? Are they Jewish?
You want variation in golems, try the Order of the Stick. The goblin high priest came up with some interesting options. When told that earth golems would be too heavy to fire in a catapult, he summoned titanium ones, and I have a vague memory of chlorine ones when he needed gas. His explanation was that there was no need to stick to the outdated elements of fire, water, air and earth.
Granted i have HEARD of such things as tsukumogami from various anime that I’ve seen over the years, but i don’t ever recalling what happens to the object itself, and the various wikipedia articles linked recently don’t say anything about what happens to the object either… maybe it morphed into Ruri and the pot itself is gone forever now, or maybe it has just gathered up enough “spiritual energy”/Ki/Chi (whatever the Stuff is that collects over the hundred years) and Ruri formed up EXTERNALLY to the teapot, and the pot is still there ABLE to be used as normal, though i would think that the owners of said pot would be extremely horrified/embarrassed to even THINK of such a thing once Ruri was born, and possibly that any strange phenomena that were probably associated with her “birth” 18 years ago, may make it awkward to do so as well. Besides, maybe the teapot is somewhat akin to a Genie’s Bottle… when Ruri is not up and about doing “stuff” then she pops back and rests in her teapot?
Well, there was that one time when she was p.o.’d and her head had morphed into something that looked like it had been in John Carpenter’s ‘the Thing’… Not a far stretch to think she’s plant based. OTOH- we haven’t yet found if her Pop is a Carrot or something…
Just from questions I asked Paul once, pondering drawing some Daylla fanart, I got the impression she was some form of dryad. I suppose it’s still possible in some way? :3 Or I misundstood..
You probably haven’t watched enough Anime, nor read enough Manga yet! 😀 i’m sure that there must be SOMETHING out there by now that deals with this EXACT topic!
Not that I can recall, and I’ve been watching anime for nearly 30 years now! I’m not saying there’s no way anyone’s done it before, but I’ve never seen a sentimental focus on the connection between the tsukumogami and the people that owned the item. I guess the Japanese don’t think of them that way, and it seems like such a missed story opportunity.
Also plenty of websites that have delved into Japanese supernatural subjects. It’s just a matter of websearching away some of your time, but you could probably get a list of dozens of sites immediately.
Aha! A clue about what Daylla is.
Animated armor, Alphonse Elric style?
More like a weapon. The center of her face is a blade.
I’m thinking a golem.
Golems are made from clay or mud. The very definition thereof.
Traditional golems, yes, but the materials have diversified since D&D. You could have a depleted uranium golem if you wanted.
The Wapsiverse is not traditional. There’s an ancient blackthorn/human hybrid and you’re freaking out over a metal golem?
Colossus got laid. 🙂
D&D? You mean Dungeons and Dragons? Golems didn’t originate with Dungeons and Dragons. It’s Jewish mythology from Southern Europe.
@Treesong
Yeah, D&D really put some diversity into golems. I once rigged up an underground dungeon where a passage was bisected by a large natural cavern. In the cavern was a natural deposit of petrolium, still boiling its way to eventually become crude oil. I also had a bridge built across the cavern to link the split passageway back together. the passage & bridge were not very far over the top surface of the bubbling petrolium, so the bridge did indeed get a layer of the stuff splattered all over it so footing was uncertain & there were no safety rails built with it.
The guardian of the bridge?
Flint golem.
Barermender: yes, that is true. However, D&D added a lot to golems, though the idea of expanded golems is hardly new. Frankenstein’s Monster could be considered a flesh golem, for example. D&D brought the idea of golems and various kinds of golems to a wider audience. It adapted from many mythologies and literatures. Halflings are named such because the Tolkien estate owns the trademark for Hobbit. It pulled from Lovecraft, and various religions, including Judaism. So the idea of Daylla being a metal golem isn’t very farfetched. Add to that the fact that while THE Golem is Jewish, the IDEA of golems aren’t. Aren’t Bud, Brandi, and Jin golems, and named such? Are they Jewish?
Golems are made by someone. They seem to be natural.
You want variation in golems, try the Order of the Stick. The goblin high priest came up with some interesting options. When told that earth golems would be too heavy to fire in a catapult, he summoned titanium ones, and I have a vague memory of chlorine ones when he needed gas. His explanation was that there was no need to stick to the outdated elements of fire, water, air and earth.
Besides, fire is a reaction, not an element. They’re not called “Reactionals”.
How many real world years did we have to wait for Paul to give us the BASICS on this character? (Or really, just a hint).
(sigh)
What would a teapot remember? “Ow, that’s hot?”
Getting teabagged?
I hate you for that joke.
It is wonderful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xrw0gbnNuU
🤣😄🤣
I would create an army of bots to like that joke if we had such a system
Ranma 1/2 cosplayers?
I can’t get to the forum – is anyone else having problems accessing it?
It’s working Ok for me… was a bit slow to access earlier in the day but I’m not having any difficulty or delays now.
I had to switch from Charter’s own DNS to OpenDNS, but it’s working fine now.
The forum was one of several sites i couldn’t get.
Note that it told me that it couldn’t find the domain for the forum, but it could for the comic – and it’s the same domain.
I wonder how Ruri’s family sees the teapot that replaced Ruri 18 years ago… Just a teapot? A potential little sister for Ruri a century down the road?
Do they even know? Is this animated spirit-of-teapot separate from the object itself?
(I’m imagining a lich’s phylactory – Ruri is immortal until the pot is broken.)
Who said that her Teapot Disappeared?…
Granted i have HEARD of such things as tsukumogami from various anime that I’ve seen over the years, but i don’t ever recalling what happens to the object itself, and the various wikipedia articles linked recently don’t say anything about what happens to the object either… maybe it morphed into Ruri and the pot itself is gone forever now, or maybe it has just gathered up enough “spiritual energy”/Ki/Chi (whatever the Stuff is that collects over the hundred years) and Ruri formed up EXTERNALLY to the teapot, and the pot is still there ABLE to be used as normal, though i would think that the owners of said pot would be extremely horrified/embarrassed to even THINK of such a thing once Ruri was born, and possibly that any strange phenomena that were probably associated with her “birth” 18 years ago, may make it awkward to do so as well. Besides, maybe the teapot is somewhat akin to a Genie’s Bottle… when Ruri is not up and about doing “stuff” then she pops back and rests in her teapot?
But, but, she’s neither short, nor stout…
She doesn’t seem to be cracked or have a chip on her shoulder.
She’s just short.
Besides teapots come in a variety of shapes and sizes. ‘Short and stout’ just happens to be the most common one.
Huh, I thought she was a plant..
Well, there was that one time when she was p.o.’d and her head had morphed into something that looked like it had been in John Carpenter’s ‘the Thing’… Not a far stretch to think she’s plant based. OTOH- we haven’t yet found if her Pop is a Carrot or something…
Castela is a plant, and has turned into a plant-monster-looking-form when angered.
Daylla, I don’t think we’ve seen turn into a plant ever.
Killjoy
Just from questions I asked Paul once, pondering drawing some Daylla fanart, I got the impression she was some form of dryad. I suppose it’s still possible in some way? :3 Or I misundstood..
@Killjoy: I think the only time we’ve seen Daylla change form is http://wapsisquare.com/comic/run-away/
Not exactly a plant form… she still had hair. Not exactly like anything I’ve ever seen depicted.
If this form was more snakelike I’d say it must be a copperhead, but it isn’t so I won’t.
What an interesting and story rich perspective on tsukumogami. I wonder why I’ve never seen that before.
You probably haven’t watched enough Anime, nor read enough Manga yet! 😀 i’m sure that there must be SOMETHING out there by now that deals with this EXACT topic!
Not that I can recall, and I’ve been watching anime for nearly 30 years now! I’m not saying there’s no way anyone’s done it before, but I’ve never seen a sentimental focus on the connection between the tsukumogami and the people that owned the item. I guess the Japanese don’t think of them that way, and it seems like such a missed story opportunity.
Also plenty of websites that have delved into Japanese supernatural subjects. It’s just a matter of websearching away some of your time, but you could probably get a list of dozens of sites immediately.
[insert “Well, That Escalated Quickly” meme image here]