Magic spoons trick?
That is just soooo suggestive of others (not quite PG) things.
It might not be PC, (nobody has ever accused me of being PC) but I’m getting tired of the continuous girl-on-girl.
I’m not into the entire ‘alternative culture’ junk at all.
Let’ start with a little ‘normal’ (Male and female) stuff… OK?
There’s always the backlog if you don’t like the current content. Or literally 99% of all comics everywhere from the beginning of comic art. No need to change this one to suit you.
I am completely open to all forms of interpersonal attraction but I am also a mathematician and I know that the usual usage of the word “normal” in this context, refers to the mode of a data set. Male-female pairings is most assuredly the norm(or mode). That does not throw any shade on same sex pairings but they are clearly not the mode.
pwbritt: This not a ‘real world’ comic strip.. ‘Normal’ values do not apply.. when you have a ‘girl’ who is actually a ‘plant based’ life-form, it is not normal for earth based life, but it IS as ‘normal’ as Klingons or Vulcans in Star Trek…
The majority of the life on this planet reproduces sexually, and ALL humans do. So yes, a lot of overly-literal readers of this comic may feel that they cannot completely emphasize with the alternative or odd lives of many of these characters, many of whom are NOT HUMAN.
This is a problem that has been with the non-binary and gay community since forever.
Embrace the mental disconnect and learn from it.
Read something that disturbs that cosy little worldview of yours.
Get out in the world and make a friend you might have ignored because of your differences.
Hell, date someone whose options are wider than yours. You might learn something about yourself, you narrow-minded bastids.
Concerning “normal”, I encourage everyone to read up on the Naturalistic Fallacy. In short: “most common != good”. Slavery was present is most cultures. Plants poison each other. (BTW, I, too, am a Mathematician, and I know that statistical measures are sometimes-useful fantasies almost universally misapplied. Oooh! That makes statistical misapplication “normal”!)
And yes, it is Paul’s work. And we’re all here because we love it.
@Syncline: Actually, I am not sufre if the majorty of life on Earth does reproduce sexually. I a not sure f the percentages among bacteria, and whether you count by number of individuals, or the sheer weight of the total individuals, bacteria are by far the majority of life on Earth…
Thank you for saying that. I felt that it was most likely a platonic snuggle like two kittens will do to stay warm and feel connected. too many people look at things and automatically go to the sexual side when it is not necessarily so.
Too many people do not realize that intimate and sexual are two different things and one can exist without the other. I think this is sweet and a mark of an intimate friendship of two people who totally trust one another.
Another thought: You do remember that you’re reading a strip populated almost entirely by various paranormal beings who are masquerading as human and just trying to live their lives, right? What’s normal for them can very easily be completely different from what’s normal for humans.
To paraphrase Obi-Wan Kenobi; You’ll find that what we perceive as normal depends greatly upon one’s point of view.
you guys may wish to look at some of the ‘other’ webcomics you keep mentioning, by the way.
there are so many authors wishing to prove they are ‘tolerant’ and PC, you’ll find it difficult to find a webcomic that DOESN’T have lesbian/homosexual relationships in it… but does have sexually diverse (male and female) relationships…and i am presently reading 30+ of them.
You will also note I am still reading THIS web comic and I never threatened to stop.
I do so enjoy the storyline.
I just felt ‘normal’ relationships (as impossible as that term is) needs a little support as the ‘abnormal’.
don’t have to change ‘channels’.
Paul’s story is still very good.
Besides, some of the other webcomics I read are so ‘gender-bender’ Paul’s story looks as straight as a laser by comparision.
I don’t think it’s allowed to reveal which one(s) I am talking about (without Paul’s ok), but there are quite a few.
Again, I just requested some normal relationships.
I did not demand.
As many of you have said, it is Paul’s story.
Girl-on-girl IS normal. So is guy-on-guy. Someone who is homosexual getting it on with someone of another gender would be abnormal. Whereas for someone like my cis-male self, attraction to any gender is normal.
Her campaign… to be a great roommate and friend?
Fairly sure Abbie already has a girlfriend (or at least someone she is interested in, even if she doesn’t know how the other girl truly feels, and versa vice)
It’s shocking how intolerant this community is of any criticism of the comic. I like the strip enough to read it every day, but do people really think it’s perfect? That there’s no room for improvement? Yes, this is Paul’s story, but he has submitted it for an audience and provided space for discussion. Discussing the bad along with the good is healthy, it helps things improve. Disliking one aspect of something doesn’t mean it’s bad or that you can’t still enjoy it. I don’t understand the “if you don’t like something about this comic, go read something else!” mentality. That’s fanatic, cultish, obsequious fawning to me. I would have stopped reading years ago, and I certainly wouldn’t have supported Paul’s patreon, if I gave up on Wapsi just because I found was a character or arc I didn’t love. Saying you don’t like something is fine. Differences of opinion don’t invalidate your own opinions.
i think the Artist agrees..? criticism is great.!
it shows areas of improvement, or in some cases areas to avoid…
but i think , the problem is in the fact of telling of tell the Artist “how” to post his comic.!
Exactly. We have people telling Paul “I don’t like this, maybe do what I like instead”. It’s like telling George Lucas “there can’t be sound in space, stop with all the loud explosions” or telling Stephen King “stop with all the creepy stuff”
The nature of fandom is FULL of criticism and exclusion.
We can either embrace our inner $#!*lords or choose to rise above it and be better people.
People HAVE gone after Lucas for his revisionism of his own characters and plot devices (Han shot first? Hell, even I was annoyed about that. Midiclorians? People are still grumbling that Lucas is determined to kill a growing religious/social movement that he himself started – ‘Jedi’ is a religious option in the military now).
People HAVE asked King to do more and faster work on the Dark Tower series and demanded that he focus on other, popular themes (Stand by Me? Running Man? Dark Tower? None of those are Horror. The man is simply a gifted writer who LIKES horror).
Fans have opinions, often extreme ones.
Some manners in the presentation of those extreme opinions goes a long way in being allowed to say anything or be heard, because although America claims it believes strongly in the First Amendment, we really only believe in it right up until someone’s feelings get REALLY hurt, and then the Jackboots come out.
A good message is ‘perfection is overrated’.. ‘difference’ and ‘imperfections’ are why life survives… if everything is the same, ONE disease would wipe out **everyone**…
Yep, check out what happened to the Gros Michel species of banana back in the 1950’s and is probably already happening AGAIN with it’s replacement the Cavendish.
It’s one thing to point out errors, either in art or words, it’s completely another to say you don’t like something and the author should change it or they will stop reading
@Bolverk That wasn’t constructive criticism, that was an appeal to bring the comic more in line with “normal” values. I find his comic appealing just as it is and see no reason to change it. Seriously, April is an Oni and can’t be expected to adhere to “normal” values because we don’t know what “normal” is for her.
When one of my nephews was little, he would come and stay with my mom and me when sis was working late. If he was having trouble going to sleep, Ma would call me into the front room to get him down. All I had to do was rub his feet for a couple of minutes, and he’d conk out in short order. “How do you do that!?” Sis would say.
Cuddles are the path to rest. Cuddles lead to relaxation. Relaxation leads to sleepiness. Sleepiness leads to rest. (My apologies to Yoda.) 🙂
In all honesty though, I can count on one hand the number of times that I have been able to fall asleep spooning. I’ve always thought that it looked super sweet and comfy, but I have not been able to make it work for me. If I’m the small spoon, I tend to start overheating very quickly, because I’m a walking furnace. The running joke with friends and family joke is that I carry two furnaces on my chest (it’s only a joke because people find calling boobs furnaces amusing…they really are a major heat source for my torso), so when a person is against my back, I have double the heating going on, which gets really uncomfortable really quick. If I’m the big spoon, the arm I’m laying on either falls asleep if it’s under the other person, or is in the way…hitting the headboard or wall if I try to have it over their head, and elbowing them or shoving them away from me if I try to keep it between us…because big boobs = arms have few places to go.
For illustrative purposes (in case there’s anyone out there without an imagination), here’s a story. There’s a yoga pose I remember from when I attended weekly yoga classes (I think it was a variation of the locust pose) where you’re supposed to lay on your stomach (already wildly uncomfortable for me since my head won’t touch the floor if my neck is straight…and also if squishing pressure on boobs was fun, everyone would love getting mammograms), bring your chin to the mat/”kiss the mat” (that’s how the instructors actually said to position your head…so here’s problem #2…I had to tuck my chin just to get my forehead to the floor, so there was no way my chin was reaching the mat…and don’t even get me started on how hard it is to breathe laying like that), and then work your arms underneath your body so your hands are side by side, palms down, whole arm touching the floor (minimal bending of the elbows if possible). Here’s where the pose met catastrophic failure for me, because my arms couldn’t get under my body while I was laying on my stomach (they ran into major obstructions at their pivot point…my boobs), if I lifted my body side to side to try and get them under me, I couldn’t lay back down without seriously damaging my elbows or shoulders. Ask a large-breasted woman to bring her arms together, palms up, and then lower her arms towards her body as far as they’ll go. They won’t lower very far. For me they stop just below parallel with the ground if I’m not wearing any kind of bra. They stop closer to parallel with the ground if I’m in a sports bra. Then imagine what would happen to her arms/elbows if you tried to force her hands to her stomach in that position. With palms up, the elbows only bend one way…and it’s not down.
The funny thing is, the realization of that yoga pose laying down almost looks like the horizontal version of what I look like putting my arms out in front of me like that when I’m standing. You’re supposed to lift your legs and hips off the floor while pushing your hands and forearms into the mat. If I could’ve just rotated my standing version to be on the ground without me moving my body, I’d have been one of the more advanced looking people in my class for how high off the ground my hips and legs would’ve been.
Anyhow…all of that to say: Cuddling/spooning is adorable…for everyone else. 😛
Ditto the arm thing, which is unfortunate cuz I love hugs and spoons…and although I also overheat quite easily (my whole body is an efficient heat generator–I run a fan even in the winter), the problem is that when my arm is pinned down I get feelings of claustrophobia that multiply the discomfort.
“How’d you like to spoon with me? How’d you like to spoon with me? Sit beneath an oak tree large and shady, call me little tootsy wootsy baby, how’d you like to hug and squeeze? Dangle me upon your knees? How’d you like to be my lovey dovey? How’d you like to spoon with me?” —Jerome Kern.
Interestingly, thanks to Paul I just found insight on an idiom used long before I was born and used in an old movie.
The reference was obvious due to context but I couldn’t connect the dots.
Now I understand what Great Great Grandpa was referencing when he accused someone of “Spooning”.
Magic spoons trick?
That is just soooo suggestive of others (not quite PG) things.
It might not be PC, (nobody has ever accused me of being PC) but I’m getting tired of the continuous girl-on-girl.
I’m not into the entire ‘alternative culture’ junk at all.
Let’ start with a little ‘normal’ (Male and female) stuff… OK?
It’s his story to tell, mate.
There’s always the backlog if you don’t like the current content. Or literally 99% of all comics everywhere from the beginning of comic art. No need to change this one to suit you.
If you don’t like the story Paul is telling go find a different story.
This is HIS artwork, and HIS website that he pays for with HIS money. We are guests he has graciously allowed in.
…also, who’s to say “male and female” is NORMAL?
I am completely open to all forms of interpersonal attraction but I am also a mathematician and I know that the usual usage of the word “normal” in this context, refers to the mode of a data set. Male-female pairings is most assuredly the norm(or mode). That does not throw any shade on same sex pairings but they are clearly not the mode.
@pwbritt: then you also know that the “normal female-male paring” is a forced number.. ?
pwbritt: This not a ‘real world’ comic strip.. ‘Normal’ values do not apply.. when you have a ‘girl’ who is actually a ‘plant based’ life-form, it is not normal for earth based life, but it IS as ‘normal’ as Klingons or Vulcans in Star Trek…
robnot: but is it as ‘normal’ as plant-based asexual reproduction???
The majority of the life on this planet reproduces sexually, and ALL humans do. So yes, a lot of overly-literal readers of this comic may feel that they cannot completely emphasize with the alternative or odd lives of many of these characters, many of whom are NOT HUMAN.
This is a problem that has been with the non-binary and gay community since forever.
Embrace the mental disconnect and learn from it.
Read something that disturbs that cosy little worldview of yours.
Get out in the world and make a friend you might have ignored because of your differences.
Hell, date someone whose options are wider than yours. You might learn something about yourself, you narrow-minded bastids.
Concerning “normal”, I encourage everyone to read up on the Naturalistic Fallacy. In short: “most common != good”. Slavery was present is most cultures. Plants poison each other. (BTW, I, too, am a Mathematician, and I know that statistical measures are sometimes-useful fantasies almost universally misapplied. Oooh! That makes statistical misapplication “normal”!)
And yes, it is Paul’s work. And we’re all here because we love it.
@Syncline: Actually, I am not sufre if the majorty of life on Earth does reproduce sexually. I a not sure f the percentages among bacteria, and whether you count by number of individuals, or the sheer weight of the total individuals, bacteria are by far the majority of life on Earth…
https://d1w7fb2mkkr3kw.cloudfront.net/assets/images/book/lrg/9781/4062/9781406248562.jpg
General reminder that “I’m not PC” almost always means “I am salty that people have started calling me out when I’m a jerk”.
Testify!
I don’t recall Paul ever advertising for writers. Maybe go write your own comic?
Just so you know, nothing sexual happened, and nothing sexual is going to happen. They’re just spooning to fall asleep because it’s comforting.
Thank you for saying that. I felt that it was most likely a platonic snuggle like two kittens will do to stay warm and feel connected. too many people look at things and automatically go to the sexual side when it is not necessarily so.
Too many people do not realize that intimate and sexual are two different things and one can exist without the other. I think this is sweet and a mark of an intimate friendship of two people who totally trust one another.
Another thought: You do remember that you’re reading a strip populated almost entirely by various paranormal beings who are masquerading as human and just trying to live their lives, right? What’s normal for them can very easily be completely different from what’s normal for humans.
To paraphrase Obi-Wan Kenobi; You’ll find that what we perceive as normal depends greatly upon one’s point of view.
Valkeiper2020: yeah, as ‘normal’ as the episode of StarTrek:NG where they found a planet with ‘asexual’ humanoids..
Fun was had when they asked Riker ‘what is the strange way you reproduce?’ and other questions a bit embarrassing for the staff… 🙂
https://biologydictionary.net/asexual-reproduction/
Ok, I got it.
I had it quite a long time, too.
you guys may wish to look at some of the ‘other’ webcomics you keep mentioning, by the way.
there are so many authors wishing to prove they are ‘tolerant’ and PC, you’ll find it difficult to find a webcomic that DOESN’T have lesbian/homosexual relationships in it… but does have sexually diverse (male and female) relationships…and i am presently reading 30+ of them.
You will also note I am still reading THIS web comic and I never threatened to stop.
I do so enjoy the storyline.
I just felt ‘normal’ relationships (as impossible as that term is) needs a little support as the ‘abnormal’.
You know what they say: don’t like the program, change the channel. Bye.
don’t have to change ‘channels’.
Paul’s story is still very good.
Besides, some of the other webcomics I read are so ‘gender-bender’ Paul’s story looks as straight as a laser by comparision.
I don’t think it’s allowed to reveal which one(s) I am talking about (without Paul’s ok), but there are quite a few.
Again, I just requested some normal relationships.
I did not demand.
As many of you have said, it is Paul’s story.
Girl-on-girl IS normal. So is guy-on-guy. Someone who is homosexual getting it on with someone of another gender would be abnormal. Whereas for someone like my cis-male self, attraction to any gender is normal.
Her subtle campaign continues.
Her campaign… to be a great roommate and friend?
Fairly sure Abbie already has a girlfriend (or at least someone she is interested in, even if she doesn’t know how the other girl truly feels, and versa vice)
Sooooo. What happens when Ddvyn pays a visit?
It’s shocking how intolerant this community is of any criticism of the comic. I like the strip enough to read it every day, but do people really think it’s perfect? That there’s no room for improvement? Yes, this is Paul’s story, but he has submitted it for an audience and provided space for discussion. Discussing the bad along with the good is healthy, it helps things improve. Disliking one aspect of something doesn’t mean it’s bad or that you can’t still enjoy it. I don’t understand the “if you don’t like something about this comic, go read something else!” mentality. That’s fanatic, cultish, obsequious fawning to me. I would have stopped reading years ago, and I certainly wouldn’t have supported Paul’s patreon, if I gave up on Wapsi just because I found was a character or arc I didn’t love. Saying you don’t like something is fine. Differences of opinion don’t invalidate your own opinions.
i think the Artist agrees..? criticism is great.!
it shows areas of improvement, or in some cases areas to avoid…
but i think , the problem is in the fact of telling of tell the Artist “how” to post his comic.!
Exactly. We have people telling Paul “I don’t like this, maybe do what I like instead”. It’s like telling George Lucas “there can’t be sound in space, stop with all the loud explosions” or telling Stephen King “stop with all the creepy stuff”
The nature of fandom is FULL of criticism and exclusion.
We can either embrace our inner $#!*lords or choose to rise above it and be better people.
People HAVE gone after Lucas for his revisionism of his own characters and plot devices (Han shot first? Hell, even I was annoyed about that. Midiclorians? People are still grumbling that Lucas is determined to kill a growing religious/social movement that he himself started – ‘Jedi’ is a religious option in the military now).
People HAVE asked King to do more and faster work on the Dark Tower series and demanded that he focus on other, popular themes (Stand by Me? Running Man? Dark Tower? None of those are Horror. The man is simply a gifted writer who LIKES horror).
Fans have opinions, often extreme ones.
Some manners in the presentation of those extreme opinions goes a long way in being allowed to say anything or be heard, because although America claims it believes strongly in the First Amendment, we really only believe in it right up until someone’s feelings get REALLY hurt, and then the Jackboots come out.
A good message is ‘perfection is overrated’.. ‘difference’ and ‘imperfections’ are why life survives… if everything is the same, ONE disease would wipe out **everyone**…
Yep, check out what happened to the Gros Michel species of banana back in the 1950’s and is probably already happening AGAIN with it’s replacement the Cavendish.
It’s one thing to point out errors, either in art or words, it’s completely another to say you don’t like something and the author should change it or they will stop reading
@Bolverk That wasn’t constructive criticism, that was an appeal to bring the comic more in line with “normal” values. I find his comic appealing just as it is and see no reason to change it. Seriously, April is an Oni and can’t be expected to adhere to “normal” values because we don’t know what “normal” is for her.
That’s the cheatin’ spoon! (oid reference to Spin City episode-guest star Heidi Klum)
When one of my nephews was little, he would come and stay with my mom and me when sis was working late. If he was having trouble going to sleep, Ma would call me into the front room to get him down. All I had to do was rub his feet for a couple of minutes, and he’d conk out in short order. “How do you do that!?” Sis would say.
So, someone else knows about those secret control panels embedded in the soles, eh?
Cuddles are the path to rest. Cuddles lead to relaxation. Relaxation leads to sleepiness. Sleepiness leads to rest. (My apologies to Yoda.) 🙂
In all honesty though, I can count on one hand the number of times that I have been able to fall asleep spooning. I’ve always thought that it looked super sweet and comfy, but I have not been able to make it work for me. If I’m the small spoon, I tend to start overheating very quickly, because I’m a walking furnace. The running joke with friends and family joke is that I carry two furnaces on my chest (it’s only a joke because people find calling boobs furnaces amusing…they really are a major heat source for my torso), so when a person is against my back, I have double the heating going on, which gets really uncomfortable really quick. If I’m the big spoon, the arm I’m laying on either falls asleep if it’s under the other person, or is in the way…hitting the headboard or wall if I try to have it over their head, and elbowing them or shoving them away from me if I try to keep it between us…because big boobs = arms have few places to go.
For illustrative purposes (in case there’s anyone out there without an imagination), here’s a story. There’s a yoga pose I remember from when I attended weekly yoga classes (I think it was a variation of the locust pose) where you’re supposed to lay on your stomach (already wildly uncomfortable for me since my head won’t touch the floor if my neck is straight…and also if squishing pressure on boobs was fun, everyone would love getting mammograms), bring your chin to the mat/”kiss the mat” (that’s how the instructors actually said to position your head…so here’s problem #2…I had to tuck my chin just to get my forehead to the floor, so there was no way my chin was reaching the mat…and don’t even get me started on how hard it is to breathe laying like that), and then work your arms underneath your body so your hands are side by side, palms down, whole arm touching the floor (minimal bending of the elbows if possible). Here’s where the pose met catastrophic failure for me, because my arms couldn’t get under my body while I was laying on my stomach (they ran into major obstructions at their pivot point…my boobs), if I lifted my body side to side to try and get them under me, I couldn’t lay back down without seriously damaging my elbows or shoulders. Ask a large-breasted woman to bring her arms together, palms up, and then lower her arms towards her body as far as they’ll go. They won’t lower very far. For me they stop just below parallel with the ground if I’m not wearing any kind of bra. They stop closer to parallel with the ground if I’m in a sports bra. Then imagine what would happen to her arms/elbows if you tried to force her hands to her stomach in that position. With palms up, the elbows only bend one way…and it’s not down.
The funny thing is, the realization of that yoga pose laying down almost looks like the horizontal version of what I look like putting my arms out in front of me like that when I’m standing. You’re supposed to lift your legs and hips off the floor while pushing your hands and forearms into the mat. If I could’ve just rotated my standing version to be on the ground without me moving my body, I’d have been one of the more advanced looking people in my class for how high off the ground my hips and legs would’ve been.
Anyhow…all of that to say: Cuddling/spooning is adorable…for everyone else. 😛
Ditto the arm thing, which is unfortunate cuz I love hugs and spoons…and although I also overheat quite easily (my whole body is an efficient heat generator–I run a fan even in the winter), the problem is that when my arm is pinned down I get feelings of claustrophobia that multiply the discomfort.
Sucks being a furnace living in TX, doesn’t it? 🙂
Comic is imperfect. All hunan endeavors imperfect.
Live with it.
Comic is as good as Paul on any given day. Still fun.
Many comics out there. Some Suck, most fun.
Spoons huh?
Looks more like a teaspoon and a ladle…
i love this character. seems ditzy but then seems to know the right things to do.
D’awww…
“How’d you like to spoon with me? How’d you like to spoon with me? Sit beneath an oak tree large and shady, call me little tootsy wootsy baby, how’d you like to hug and squeeze? Dangle me upon your knees? How’d you like to be my lovey dovey? How’d you like to spoon with me?” —Jerome Kern.
This is just so stinkin cute! April seems like a great snuggler, a good trait to have in a friend.
What happened to her flowery language? It seems to have disappeared when they went to get crepes.
Interestingly, thanks to Paul I just found insight on an idiom used long before I was born and used in an old movie.
The reference was obvious due to context but I couldn’t connect the dots.
Now I understand what Great Great Grandpa was referencing when he accused someone of “Spooning”.