One of the funniest cartoons in Bernie Kliban’s original Cat was the one with the two older folks saying “We enjoy TV much more since we got our new GE Transparent Cat!”
I still remeber the rhyme from my little jigsaw puzzle…
“Love to eat dem mousies
“Mousies what I love to eat
“Bite dey little heads off
“Nibble on dey tiny feet”
…I didn’t know anybody else remembered Kliban!
The man was a genius when it came to cats. Cat: an animal frequently mistaken for a meatloaf. Somewhere I still have a Kliban t-shirt with a cat wearing sneakers. Another favorite was Momcat.
Dude, a half-assed glimpse at Shelly’s “coltish figure” does NOT make up for the fact that there is not a gaping spewing hole where Monica’s throat used to be. The Mayan Gods of Fanservice are not pleased….
Hah, no tatoo. Just what I thought with the previous strip. If you go back, you’ll see that the tatoo went up to Shelly’s throat. And in the previous couple strips, there was… exactly, nothing there. And no, the tatoo wasn’t about locking/unlocking, IIRC. But we’ll see, it’s still (thankfully) Pablo calling the shots.
You know Paul, all you had to do was just lift the shirt just enough to expose the torso to show that the tattoo was gone. Oh hell, who am I kidding, could you lift the shirt a little higher, just a little higher, please?
So is Brandi reading the command that brings Bud back? Because as tough as Shelly is, there is no way she can stand up to a distraught Brandi for very long.
Looks like the previous posters are onto something. The word Brandi is uttering is the same one Bud used in this comic http://wapsisquare.com/comic/dontfreak/
Does this mean that Bud is not trapped in a basement with Shelly’s “freaky” conscience?
Yeah, Shelly is currently “locked” and what Brandi just said “unlocked” her tattoo, and if Bud has the other portal cloth she can come flying out any.time.now……..
I understand that this was probably meant to show the lack of tattoo, but showing that much of Shelly’s bare breasts is really way too fanservice-y and took me out of the story in a bad sense. Jin’s magical increasing decolletage through the scene had me squinting a bit but I really don’t like this.
Come on Alex, not every time someone shows some skin means its fan service. Its tiring that any time there’s a hint of skin some people start screaming fan service as if showing skin on one of the characters is the most evil thing in the world.
Besides, I know for a fact that Shelly has in her contract that she’ll show skin only if tasteful and part of the storyline. So if’ its okay with her, why complain. 🙂
This was about showing the lack of tattoo in no uncertain terms and not about fanservice. For crying out loud you see more of any characters breasts from the top in a low cut shirt than you see the underside of Shelly’s boobs. Not everything that you deem fanservice was what’s intended. If you want a witch hunt, you’ll need to look elsewhere.
Considering in the early part of the strip Shelly would talk about how she had so many bras (in contrast to Monica who had three), it seemed odd and very out of place to me to show her as bare breasted under her shirt. So, yeah, it seemed more like fanservice to me than something that had been established as part of Shelly’s character.
First off, everyone criticizing Jin’s outfit – Jin’s was to point out her mentality and with the way her character was structured, I don’t see any other way it could have been done.
Secondly, if you’re spending that much time looking at strips for fanservice just so you can make negative remarks, maybe you’re the one with the problem. Lift a shirt in the way gravity would have (You think her shirt would have gone down in that situation? Try it sometime.) and that’s what you get. Going from one strip to the next and everything changes from wild adoration to omfg. Talk about sheep following the crowd.
I believe “L” is part of a group from the somethingaweful forums that try to get banned from other forums and talk groups and then brag (and complain to each other) about it.
Nothing wrong with fanservice. I’ll take their portion if they don’t want any. I’ll take it even if you didn’t intend it. I don’t care, and I’m not going to sit and go “ooooh, tsk, tsk, fanservice!” every time you show skin. I’m just going to sit back and go, “ahhh, thank you Pablo. Thank you very much.”
Such a nice man, who shows me such pretty mammaries for whatever reason.
Fair enough. I’d love the chance to work with someone in the future, but at present this is not much of an option. I believe every day is a school day and I welcome the opportunity to grow and do my best to improve my art. Most days i feel like I’m drawing with boxing gloves on and hope that most people won’t notice. In the same breath, I don’t put my work out there for folks to give me a cybor blow-job. What I had hoped for this venue would be a place for people to discuss the story, characters and ideas that I have presented. Most (not all) people that come in here with “criticism” tend to have an agenda other that helping me grow as an artist. Mostly those people have come in to fart in the room and then shut the door. making sure to get as much attention as they possibly can on the way out.
Any mention about Shelly’s shirt being lifted only seems to be brought up by people that felt I intended to titillate the reader with a peep-show. As i stated before, those folks jest need to grow up a bit.
Fanservice? Are the fans of this comic so adolescent that a couple of curved lines are going to send them to sexual fantasy-land( ok, maybe a couple)? I can’t speak for others, but it takes way more than that to get me to even care. These are cartoon characters after all. Even one shown fully nude and anatomically correct would only get just a bit more than a passing glance from me. Not because of the nudity, but because it would be unexpected.
On the other hand, ladies, this shows why you should always wear a bra, whether you need one or not. You never know when a behemoth-in-human-form is going to decide to grab your tee shirt and lift you in anger.
…. actually, I think it would be more in character for Shelly to just throw some heavy machinery at someone making comments than to dress pre-emptively, with prudeverts in mind.
I understand that this was meant to show the lack of tattoo, and showing that much of Shelly’s bare breasts was just the right amount of fan-service, giving me a little (albeit juvenile) giggle. Jin’s magical increasing décolletage through the scene had me squinting a bit but it didn’t really bother. Thanks!
I don’t think it was fanservicey at all, unless Pablo went back and drew Shelly in a very out of character cleavage shirt there’s no way he could have a ‘timed reveal’ putting the missing tat in the spotlight like this.
And that was the point, not to offend you, or to please me, telling the story. If I was a thousands of years old sumarian demon golem I would be rending flesh gobbets at this point in Brandi’s state of mind, a little shirt yanking is certainly in pace with her anguish.
Agreed… After all, bud said something about Brandi being pretty dangerous when she was mad, didn’t she? ( I mean.. obviously). Wish I followed close enough to quote exactly what and where.. :/
Well, as someone has pointed out, since the tattoo comes up Shelly’s neck almost to her chin. there *could* have been a bit less revealing reveal … but this way is unequivocally specific.
@Alex C. – I felt the same way about this shot, why isn’t she wearing a bra? This comic receives so much criticism about the “proportions” of the female characters and I always felt that it was unfounded as Pablo (Paul? Sorry, I feel it rude to address you by your first name even IF I have been a fan for a long time) seems to have always advocated for acceptance of other body types.
My other issue, which I’ve held off on for a few weeks is that there seems to be a story synopsis posted somewhere… A lot of this, despite being a faithful reader is extremely confusing, and somewhat off-putting. At first, I loved the Golem Girls, Demon Barista and the Demons in general… But as time went on it became increasingly about them and stopping the calendar machine and it seemed to go off on some wild tangent that was not well explained…
If this isn’t a way of ending the comic, what is going to happen when it’s all over? Does it go back to being “slice of life”?
If you hate where it went, you could simply stop reading. Something made you stay. The comic is a more wide world. It’s expanding, what’s wrong with that?
I really don’t understand why everyone is confused, either.
And from personal experience, if you don’t need a bra, wearing them in a situation where you know it will get heavy is the most uncomfortable thing.
All ‘OMG your objectifying butch women’ aside (because it’s art and we’re all mature adults) I know id rather be picked up by my shirt with shoulder support then by my neck when the person doing the lifting could crush me like a tin can.
Really people? Really? Come on, it’s cartoon pixels on a screen. *CARTOON* pixels on a screen. This isn’t the Disney channel and this isn’t a storyline kids would even be following. Art, not art, author’s discretion, yada yada yada… I don’t understand why it is even an issue. Read it for the story, great characters, and some solid art work. Not to piss and moan because of you can see the bottom of a pair of *cartoon* boobs.
Fan-service-y thought it may or may not be (when I get lifted by my t-shirt, it usually rips off), thanks for the half-naked Shelly and the storypoint of missing tattoo. After all, if breasts aren’t a motif by now, well…
Speaking again as a Comanche, and as a relation to the actual Wahnee family, may I say that normally, pulling Shelly’s shirt up usually isn’t wise. Numunu women are very quick to react to things like that. My Ma was known to punch out people who tried to jump out and scare her. But at least it lets us know the Portal Cloth is not where we might have thought it was. Is somebody else wearing it?
Also, since my comments seemed to flip out a few people:
My squinting at Jin’s decolletage was not because it was extreme, but because it was actually increasing, art-wise, through the scene. By that I mean her neckline started as a fairly deep v-plunge at the above/middle of her boobs, to being below her boobs. It made me wonder what the heck she was doing to her shirt to make that change.
As for the under-boobs, yes a lot of cleavage has been shown. However, in the past, it was established that Shelly owns hundreds of bras as one of her quirks. Why isn’t she wearing one now? And there IS a difference between a character showing off cleavage willingly and having someone’s breasts bared forcibly. The forcible bareing PLUS lack of bra is what jarred me out of the story. Not an objection to the former, since she did get grabbed and lifted by her shirt, but when added to the latter, it makes it feel weird to me.
Finally: ‘witch hunt’? Please, I’ve followed the comic for years and have even defended it to people who deem it sexist.
My apologies, I’m in a bad mood, nothing related to the comic. Shelly’s love of bras and not wanting to get them dirty will be explained in a few comics. What I’m doing is deliberate and will make sense. Again, I’m sorry for that statement.
It’s totally okay, Mr. Taylor. If I didn’t like the comic as a whole i wouldn’t bother reading it, but I also will make comments when things come up that bother me. If it all makes sense in the context of the story, then I suspect I won’t have any problems with it.
Oh dear lord, I’m glad the direction of this comic isn’t up to the politically correct view of some of it’s fans. Objectification? Forcibly bared breasts? The strip is already self censored quite a bit from what I have seen. Especially when it comes to violence towards women. Not to men, obvioulsy, given the panel in which a man’s head is graphically shown sliced into sections.
So she owns a lot of bras. Even Jay Leno takes walks on occassion, despite owning many cars.
I remember the early strips, especially when Amanda was ribbing Monica about the number of undergarments Shelly had as opposed to how many Monica actually owned. It makes sense that she wouldn’t want to damage any of her favorites, and I know Paul isn’t trying to go all “T&A” on us. Besides, Brandi needed to see the tattoo portal and she isn’t exactly in a mood to be discreet about it.
Wow. Just…wow. Fanservice? I guess I’m too much out of the loop as to what it is. I didn’t know it involved that much fury and terror. </sarcasm>
Hell, I didn’t even register ‘TEH M4J0R B00B4G3’ until it was pointed out. All I noticed was the lack of tattoo and that her left upper arm looked odd.
The amount of skin shown is perfectly in context with the story, as tasteful as the rest of the cleavage seen here, and totally innocent to those of us with some maturity, so don’t let the kiddies get you down.
Yeah, I didn’t even blink twice at it (in fact, I didn’t notice, either). It’s tasteful, and it can’t possibly be fanservice, because, jeezus, she’s being threatened. If someone can “get off” to that they have problems.
Gach … some folks say ‘Fanservice’ like it was a BAD thing…
I am more concerned with that blade in Monica’s head … with whether or not Jin will become ‘sane’ … with what will happen to the Golem Girls once all of this is resolved … and with who has been feeding Deitzel.
As a person who has been roughly picked up by the front of her shirt before, depending on the hold, your bra goes up with you. It is how ever much more convenient to just not wear one in threat of such an incidence. Underwire gets WAY uncomfortable.
Also, Jin is still checked out, I see? I wonder what she’s doing over in the corner by herself….
“A queen of sorts is paying for her actions.” Wonder if this necessarily meant the Doubt that got shoved through the portal, or whoever Bud is going after next.
Not M’s Doubt surely – Word of Author is that she was doing her job and being a brat, not breaking rules. OTOH, we have seen demons engaging in “inside trading” that is still on the books and may be crying out for retribution.
Everyone needs to calm down and stop antagonizing each other (which I have been doing as well, I admit, and apologize for). Do we really want to fight over a comic we all love, even if some of us have problems to bring up? Do you really want Paul to feel like he must feel right now? I don’t.
I’m not saying to keep opinions to ourselves, but we can find better ways of stating it. There’s ways to express opinions and there’s ways to cause wank, and it’s not over Shelly’s chest. (whoever catches what I did there gets a cookie).
I don’t think the fight is about the comic at all. We’re all here because we love it.
The real issue is that in our society there is a large amount of aggressive prudery which is causing a lot of actual harm.
That is what people are really upset about when they reply to such comments by boobaphobes. (Sorry if I spelled that last word incorrectly.)
I’m reminded of something I heard back when classic Star Trek was on TV. Network sensors would allow the top of a woman’s breast to be exposed almost down to the nipple, but you couldn’t show a fraction of an inch of the underside. In the words of ST writer David Gerrold, “maybe they’re afraid moss grows under there.” Excuse me, I have to go clean up after this tempest destroyed my teacup.
I’m also reminded of Asimov’s pornographic scene at the end of “The Naked Sun” – Gladia removes her glove and touches Elijah Baley on his cheek with her bare hand. It’s the cultural buildup through the novel, and possible the prior one as well, that give it its meaning and context.
That reminds me of the following:
Master and student from a monastery with strict rules on interaction with women come across a lady next to a broken bridge who as she explains has to cross the river without her extremely expensive clothing wet. So the master carries her over. Then continues on the trip as if nothing happened. The student on the other hand keeps stewing. When they finally get back to the monastery the master just keeps looking at his student, who is still stewing over this, until the student blurts out that it was against the rules to even touch the lady. The master replies: Yes I carried her across the river, but you never let her go.
Ummm – portal tattoo?
“You know you have a heart when you feel it breaking,” said the Scarecrow.
that was the tinman. when dorothy was about to leave oz in the hot air balloon, he said, “now i know i have a heart, ’cause it’s breaking.”
That’s what I think – that seems to be the phrase that unlocks the tattoo, if memory serves.
You know, it’s hard to type around a cat.
One of the funniest cartoons in Bernie Kliban’s original Cat was the one with the two older folks saying “We enjoy TV much more since we got our new GE Transparent Cat!”
I still remeber the rhyme from my little jigsaw puzzle…
“Love to eat dem mousies
“Mousies what I love to eat
“Bite dey little heads off
“Nibble on dey tiny feet”
…I didn’t know anybody else remembered Kliban!
I do–and I only saw one book of his once. . . .
The man was a genius when it came to cats. Cat: an animal frequently mistaken for a meatloaf. Somewhere I still have a Kliban t-shirt with a cat wearing sneakers. Another favorite was Momcat.
Dude, a half-assed glimpse at Shelly’s “coltish figure” does NOT make up for the fact that there is not a gaping spewing hole where Monica’s throat used to be. The Mayan Gods of Fanservice are not pleased….
Gaping hole WHERE??!
no bud has too come back she was my favorite
well next to Deitzel
Hah, no tatoo. Just what I thought with the previous strip. If you go back, you’ll see that the tatoo went up to Shelly’s throat. And in the previous couple strips, there was… exactly, nothing there. And no, the tatoo wasn’t about locking/unlocking, IIRC. But we’ll see, it’s still (thankfully) Pablo calling the shots.
Of course, if I could edit my post, I’d change “tatoo” into “tattoo”. Dammit.
You know Paul, all you had to do was just lift the shirt just enough to expose the torso to show that the tattoo was gone. Oh hell, who am I kidding, could you lift the shirt a little higher, just a little higher, please?
So is Brandi reading the command that brings Bud back? Because as tough as Shelly is, there is no way she can stand up to a distraught Brandi for very long.
This is risking a wardrobe malfunction already. And, having so many readers distracted from the plot and artwork would be a shame.
Looks like the previous posters are onto something. The word Brandi is uttering is the same one Bud used in this comic
http://wapsisquare.com/comic/dontfreak/
Does this mean that Bud is not trapped in a basement with Shelly’s “freaky” conscience?
So the tattoo will come back, like it did that time?
Whale’s guts. You beat me to the link.
For more info on the doorway, read the 4 pages starting here.
Yeah, Shelly is currently “locked” and what Brandi just said “unlocked” her tattoo, and if Bud has the other portal cloth she can come flying out any.time.now……..
I understand that this was probably meant to show the lack of tattoo, but showing that much of Shelly’s bare breasts is really way too fanservice-y and took me out of the story in a bad sense. Jin’s magical increasing decolletage through the scene had me squinting a bit but I really don’t like this.
Come on Alex, not every time someone shows some skin means its fan service. Its tiring that any time there’s a hint of skin some people start screaming fan service as if showing skin on one of the characters is the most evil thing in the world.
Besides, I know for a fact that Shelly has in her contract that she’ll show skin only if tasteful and part of the storyline. So if’ its okay with her, why complain. 🙂
This was about showing the lack of tattoo in no uncertain terms and not about fanservice. For crying out loud you see more of any characters breasts from the top in a low cut shirt than you see the underside of Shelly’s boobs. Not everything that you deem fanservice was what’s intended. If you want a witch hunt, you’ll need to look elsewhere.
And my reply to that is….
ohhhhh.. underboobies!!! Yipee!
Sorry 🙂
Considering in the early part of the strip Shelly would talk about how she had so many bras (in contrast to Monica who had three), it seemed odd and very out of place to me to show her as bare breasted under her shirt. So, yeah, it seemed more like fanservice to me than something that had been established as part of Shelly’s character.
She doesn’t want to get her bra dirty. You’ll understand in a couple more strips. =)
No, I’d expect people to be more mature and not think that every bit of skin is instantly fan service.
“And I love how you say…”
You sound like someone who I question their motives for reading my comic. Again, grow up.
First off, everyone criticizing Jin’s outfit – Jin’s was to point out her mentality and with the way her character was structured, I don’t see any other way it could have been done.
Secondly, if you’re spending that much time looking at strips for fanservice just so you can make negative remarks, maybe you’re the one with the problem. Lift a shirt in the way gravity would have (You think her shirt would have gone down in that situation? Try it sometime.) and that’s what you get. Going from one strip to the next and everything changes from wild adoration to omfg. Talk about sheep following the crowd.
I believe “L” is part of a group from the somethingaweful forums that try to get banned from other forums and talk groups and then brag (and complain to each other) about it.
Nothing wrong with fanservice. I’ll take their portion if they don’t want any. I’ll take it even if you didn’t intend it. I don’t care, and I’m not going to sit and go “ooooh, tsk, tsk, fanservice!” every time you show skin. I’m just going to sit back and go, “ahhh, thank you Pablo. Thank you very much.”
Such a nice man, who shows me such pretty mammaries for whatever reason.
Fair enough. I’d love the chance to work with someone in the future, but at present this is not much of an option. I believe every day is a school day and I welcome the opportunity to grow and do my best to improve my art. Most days i feel like I’m drawing with boxing gloves on and hope that most people won’t notice. In the same breath, I don’t put my work out there for folks to give me a cybor blow-job. What I had hoped for this venue would be a place for people to discuss the story, characters and ideas that I have presented. Most (not all) people that come in here with “criticism” tend to have an agenda other that helping me grow as an artist. Mostly those people have come in to fart in the room and then shut the door. making sure to get as much attention as they possibly can on the way out.
Any mention about Shelly’s shirt being lifted only seems to be brought up by people that felt I intended to titillate the reader with a peep-show. As i stated before, those folks jest need to grow up a bit.
Fanservice? Are the fans of this comic so adolescent that a couple of curved lines are going to send them to sexual fantasy-land( ok, maybe a couple)? I can’t speak for others, but it takes way more than that to get me to even care. These are cartoon characters after all. Even one shown fully nude and anatomically correct would only get just a bit more than a passing glance from me. Not because of the nudity, but because it would be unexpected.
On the other hand, ladies, this shows why you should always wear a bra, whether you need one or not. You never know when a behemoth-in-human-form is going to decide to grab your tee shirt and lift you in anger.
Having mammary glands exposed due to being suspended by the t-shirt by itself doesn’t necessitate bra wearing. Maybe if you added
“… while you happen to be standing around in a comic strip viewed by one or more prudish busybodies.”
😛
…. actually, I think it would be more in character for Shelly to just throw some heavy machinery at someone making comments than to dress pre-emptively, with prudeverts in mind.
So, no tattoo, and no bra either. Is Monica the only Wapsi character to wear one nowadays? Not that I’m complaining, really…
I understand that this was meant to show the lack of tattoo, and showing that much of Shelly’s bare breasts was just the right amount of fan-service, giving me a little (albeit juvenile) giggle. Jin’s magical increasing décolletage through the scene had me squinting a bit but it didn’t really bother. Thanks!
I don’t think it was fanservicey at all, unless Pablo went back and drew Shelly in a very out of character cleavage shirt there’s no way he could have a ‘timed reveal’ putting the missing tat in the spotlight like this.
And that was the point, not to offend you, or to please me, telling the story. If I was a thousands of years old sumarian demon golem I would be rending flesh gobbets at this point in Brandi’s state of mind, a little shirt yanking is certainly in pace with her anguish.
Agreed… After all, bud said something about Brandi being pretty dangerous when she was mad, didn’t she? ( I mean.. obviously). Wish I followed close enough to quote exactly what and where.. :/
Well, as someone has pointed out, since the tattoo comes up Shelly’s neck almost to her chin. there *could* have been a bit less revealing reveal … but this way is unequivocally specific.
@Alex C. – I felt the same way about this shot, why isn’t she wearing a bra? This comic receives so much criticism about the “proportions” of the female characters and I always felt that it was unfounded as Pablo (Paul? Sorry, I feel it rude to address you by your first name even IF I have been a fan for a long time) seems to have always advocated for acceptance of other body types.
My other issue, which I’ve held off on for a few weeks is that there seems to be a story synopsis posted somewhere… A lot of this, despite being a faithful reader is extremely confusing, and somewhat off-putting. At first, I loved the Golem Girls, Demon Barista and the Demons in general… But as time went on it became increasingly about them and stopping the calendar machine and it seemed to go off on some wild tangent that was not well explained…
If this isn’t a way of ending the comic, what is going to happen when it’s all over? Does it go back to being “slice of life”?
If you hate where it went, you could simply stop reading. Something made you stay. The comic is a more wide world. It’s expanding, what’s wrong with that?
I really don’t understand why everyone is confused, either.
And from personal experience, if you don’t need a bra, wearing them in a situation where you know it will get heavy is the most uncomfortable thing.
the girls will need some bonding after this…
I think we need to be shown that the tattoo hasn’t jumped over to Monica’s torso.. 😉
I think I know what happens next…
Bud pops out with the scary girl in the boiler room?
Bud pops out, yes. (DUH.) And I think she brings someone with her.
I keep wanting her to bring granddaddy out for Jin, but he’s all dead and stuff.
…where is Jin now?
All ‘OMG your objectifying butch women’ aside (because it’s art and we’re all mature adults) I know id rather be picked up by my shirt with shoulder support then by my neck when the person doing the lifting could crush me like a tin can.
uh, that’s what I was going to say.
And given the mechanics and anatomy of the situation, it’s maybe even a couple of inches on the modest side of what would happen to a t-shirt.
Myself, I think he held back. I would imagine the shirt would tear off in that situation.
Really people? Really? Come on, it’s cartoon pixels on a screen. *CARTOON* pixels on a screen. This isn’t the Disney channel and this isn’t a storyline kids would even be following. Art, not art, author’s discretion, yada yada yada… I don’t understand why it is even an issue. Read it for the story, great characters, and some solid art work. Not to piss and moan because of you can see the bottom of a pair of *cartoon* boobs.
Fan-service-y thought it may or may not be (when I get lifted by my t-shirt, it usually rips off), thanks for the half-naked Shelly and the storypoint of missing tattoo. After all, if breasts aren’t a motif by now, well…
Speaking again as a Comanche, and as a relation to the actual Wahnee family, may I say that normally, pulling Shelly’s shirt up usually isn’t wise. N
umunuwomen are very quick to react to things like that. My Ma was known to punch out people who tried to jump out and scare her. But at least it lets us know the Portal Cloth is not where we might have thought it was. Is somebody else wearing it?Also, since my comments seemed to flip out a few people:
My squinting at Jin’s decolletage was not because it was extreme, but because it was actually increasing, art-wise, through the scene. By that I mean her neckline started as a fairly deep v-plunge at the above/middle of her boobs, to being below her boobs. It made me wonder what the heck she was doing to her shirt to make that change.
As for the under-boobs, yes a lot of cleavage has been shown. However, in the past, it was established that Shelly owns hundreds of bras as one of her quirks. Why isn’t she wearing one now? And there IS a difference between a character showing off cleavage willingly and having someone’s breasts bared forcibly. The forcible bareing PLUS lack of bra is what jarred me out of the story. Not an objection to the former, since she did get grabbed and lifted by her shirt, but when added to the latter, it makes it feel weird to me.
Finally: ‘witch hunt’? Please, I’ve followed the comic for years and have even defended it to people who deem it sexist.
My apologies, I’m in a bad mood, nothing related to the comic. Shelly’s love of bras and not wanting to get them dirty will be explained in a few comics. What I’m doing is deliberate and will make sense. Again, I’m sorry for that statement.
It’s totally okay, Mr. Taylor. If I didn’t like the comic as a whole i wouldn’t bother reading it, but I also will make comments when things come up that bother me. If it all makes sense in the context of the story, then I suspect I won’t have any problems with it.
Do not mind me Paul, I am just a shameless dirty old man, who should probably know better.
Oh dear lord, I’m glad the direction of this comic isn’t up to the politically correct view of some of it’s fans. Objectification? Forcibly bared breasts? The strip is already self censored quite a bit from what I have seen. Especially when it comes to violence towards women. Not to men, obvioulsy, given the panel in which a man’s head is graphically shown sliced into sections.
So she owns a lot of bras. Even Jay Leno takes walks on occassion, despite owning many cars.
I remember the early strips, especially when Amanda was ribbing Monica about the number of undergarments Shelly had as opposed to how many Monica actually owned. It makes sense that she wouldn’t want to damage any of her favorites, and I know Paul isn’t trying to go all “T&A” on us. Besides, Brandi needed to see the tattoo portal and she isn’t exactly in a mood to be discreet about it.
Wow. Just…wow. Fanservice? I guess I’m too much out of the loop as to what it is. I didn’t know it involved that much fury and terror. </sarcasm>
Hell, I didn’t even register ‘TEH M4J0R B00B4G3’ until it was pointed out. All I noticed was the lack of tattoo and that her left upper arm looked odd.
The amount of skin shown is perfectly in context with the story, as tasteful as the rest of the cleavage seen here, and totally innocent to those of us with some maturity, so don’t let the kiddies get you down.
Yeah, I didn’t even blink twice at it (in fact, I didn’t notice, either). It’s tasteful, and it can’t possibly be fanservice, because, jeezus, she’s being threatened. If someone can “get off” to that they have problems.
Gach … some folks say ‘Fanservice’ like it was a BAD thing…
I am more concerned with that blade in Monica’s head … with whether or not Jin will become ‘sane’ … with what will happen to the Golem Girls once all of this is resolved … and with who has been feeding Deitzel.
Dietzel!!! D: Well, hopefully he’s called Kevin or the Pizza Girl or uh… Monica’s other friend whose name I have forgotten. Photographer girl.
I’d be more worried about someone who was trapped inside the demon realm for millenia upon millenia, and was as baseline insane as her own daughter…
As a person who has been roughly picked up by the front of her shirt before, depending on the hold, your bra goes up with you. It is how ever much more convenient to just not wear one in threat of such an incidence. Underwire gets WAY uncomfortable.
Also, Jin is still checked out, I see? I wonder what she’s doing over in the corner by herself….
“A queen of sorts is paying for her actions.” Wonder if this necessarily meant the Doubt that got shoved through the portal, or whoever Bud is going after next.
Not M’s Doubt surely – Word of Author is that she was doing her job and being a brat, not breaking rules. OTOH, we have seen demons engaging in “inside trading” that is still on the books and may be crying out for retribution.
Everyone needs to calm down and stop antagonizing each other (which I have been doing as well, I admit, and apologize for). Do we really want to fight over a comic we all love, even if some of us have problems to bring up? Do you really want Paul to feel like he must feel right now? I don’t.
I’m not saying to keep opinions to ourselves, but we can find better ways of stating it. There’s ways to express opinions and there’s ways to cause wank, and it’s not over Shelly’s chest. (whoever catches what I did there gets a cookie).
Catch what you said on a cookie?
I don’t think the fight is about the comic at all. We’re all here because we love it.
The real issue is that in our society there is a large amount of aggressive prudery which is causing a lot of actual harm.
That is what people are really upset about when they reply to such comments by boobaphobes. (Sorry if I spelled that last word incorrectly.)
Sheesh, Shelly is really getting bruised up through all of this! In spite of her strength, isn’t she the most vulnerable one out of that whole group?
I’m guessing she’ll spend a week soaking in a tub after this is all done.
I’m reminded of something I heard back when classic Star Trek was on TV. Network sensors would allow the top of a woman’s breast to be exposed almost down to the nipple, but you couldn’t show a fraction of an inch of the underside. In the words of ST writer David Gerrold, “maybe they’re afraid moss grows under there.” Excuse me, I have to go clean up after this tempest destroyed my teacup.
Exactly! That is a point yet to make it through some folks’ noggins.
I’m also reminded of Asimov’s pornographic scene at the end of “The Naked Sun” – Gladia removes her glove and touches Elijah Baley on his cheek with her bare hand. It’s the cultural buildup through the novel, and possible the prior one as well, that give it its meaning and context.
That reminds me of the following:
Master and student from a monastery with strict rules on interaction with women come across a lady next to a broken bridge who as she explains has to cross the river without her extremely expensive clothing wet. So the master carries her over. Then continues on the trip as if nothing happened. The student on the other hand keeps stewing. When they finally get back to the monastery the master just keeps looking at his student, who is still stewing over this, until the student blurts out that it was against the rules to even touch the lady. The master replies: Yes I carried her across the river, but you never let her go.