She seems to be human.
She is also avoiding Buds question ^^
Describing the room you are in does not answer ‘are you okay’ 😛
Am still unsure if she knows who anyone is or she is just making it up as she goes along.
Well, it appears as if she might know where to go to get water.
Paula: looks very much like she is discovering all her senses… a bit like when DATA got it .. would tomorrow’s frame say “hey thats wonderful!!! I feel pain! 🙂 :)”
(its one of the STNG movies, where he tries his emotion chip..)
I doubt she’s fully human, just *much closer*, like data.. 🙂
That was my favorite TNG bit. Data tries some food and says “I hate this! Let me try some more!”. A very zen moment.
Suppose Jin’s anger, rage and pain is gone? Suppose the impact of all the torture she went through to become part of the Chimera has somehow been healed or balanced or something like that? Would her golem form be more human? Or is the new artifact in someway cancelling out her natural golem power.
As others have said before me shes acting “young” not the cynical, jaded world-weary Jin we’ve known.
Data: I hate this! It is revolting!
Best. line. ever. 😀
Well, she was telling her significant other not long ago that she wished she could finally die.
Perhaps… wish granted?
Is she supposed to be able to say that? I don’t think she’s supposed to be able to say that…
“Molly Ivins can’t say that can she?”
Sure she can. Monica could say it…
And May taught Monica whilst she was stuck in the demon realm (I think?!?) so May can say it and she is a Golem.
Your missing the bigger picture of that frame. She feels pain. Not long ago she stuck her hand in a fire place to warm her butt, now she cracks her knee and starts swearing in glyph language. I think May turned her back.
No, I realized that as well, It just seemed odd hearing that come out of her mouth. Usually that’s reserved for Monica.
nemind, followed that wiki link farther down and saw Bud could do it too. Totally forgot about that. Disregard my lack of attention to things.
I miss Molly Ivins! Her assessment of Rick Perry was awesome: “WHAT a head of hair!”.
All of the Golems know Glyph, it’s their control language (and I think Jin’s native tongue).
I wonder how you pronounce it.
Is it like ‘omega’? That is a symbol.
I guess “Shazbath!!” is as close as it gets ( a pat on the back for who’s getting that obscure,age-betraying reference 😀 )
How bout Mork from Ork
I had heard it but had to google it to confirm my memory 🙂
Na-nu na-nu 🙂
Geez, I feel old.
I didn’t even have to look that up.
It’s “Yoath” (plus diacritic marks). Check the glyph page and you’ll see it’s the same swear word Monica used when she caught her thumb in a car door.
OK itr’s here and Jin can bark her shins on the coffee table. I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing, but I’m thinking from Jin’s perspective it’s bad.
Why? She wanted to be mortal again.
Because “pain hurts”, that’s why.
Especially after thousands of years of not being able to feel it.
I forsee that table becoming one with its inner ‘kindling’ next comic 😀
Paula, I LOL’d your comment.
However, I don’t think Jin would be that destructive as she, now more than ever, needs furniture.
Be careful what you wish for. You may get it.
I use that phrase whenever I don’t win on the lotto -.-
This is exciting! It is not making sense to me, but it sure is interesting… Apparently the widget that fixed Jin actually took her waaaaay back.
I wonder if Jin made it.
In a previous lifetime.
Would explain why it would work in such a way for her.
She’s been un-golem(ed) and human once more.
(Brought to you by the department of stating the obvious)
nah, i’ll bet shes still a golem. ie, she’s still made of clay… but now she’s no longer 1/3 of an indestructible Chimaera, she’s just an “ordinary” golem, and the CPU cycles that went towards her invulnerability before are now going towards tactile sensations instead, thus everything “feels” different than she’s used to.
Good idea 🙂
Like that reasoning.
So she is still Jin (least the Jin we know) but a more delicate version of herself.
Guess we’ll find out within 28 days or so.
cuz 28 days later she will be a zombie!
No. I think Jin is fully human now. Recall that Jin thought that fixing the Calender Machine would make her how she used to be. We know now that it meant she went back to her “the walls are talking” state. But I believe Jin was mixing up other things May told her over the resets. One of the things that May told Jin was she could be “fixed” which would result of her becoming human again.
This comic shows that May told her she could not be “fixed” by destroying the calendar machine, and only states “we are what we are”, implying there is no way Jin can return to being human…then again, she says nothing about ancient relics…
Maya’s saying she can’t change from being a golem… but why get rid of the calendar machine, then?
To fix the time loops and also find a better solution to fixing Jin’s mental issues. 🙂
I would agree. Jin’s been killed several times over: Suicide, burned to ashes, merged into the Chimera and then split out… There should be no way she could be ‘alive’ again in a biological sense. Although it’s possible she’s rebooted into a different golem state, one where her clay body mimics that of a human. Hopefully she still has the access panels, though, because otherwise if they ever have to remove the Relic for some reason things will get… messy….
@Eee : let alone the unpleasant results, might she gotten involved in a nasty, bloody traffic-accident.. Think Tschernobyl.
911 personnel falling over from radiation-poisoning, might raise some eyebrows……. 😯
I somehow think she is still a golem, but stuck with the ability to feel pain. Comes with having a power source that can go back in time. Something so much that I could even feel the pain.
But even gaining the ability the see things as they are and then feeling the world as they are, even in a body that cannot die. It is a shock something, like see that you are no longer the key to what is going to happen even if you are there from the start. A key might not be the Key that is needed now. That can be deflating as feeling pain after 80k years.
I wonder if she is immortal like she was before the Goleming.
The immortals could die (from what Tepoz said) just not age.
Ooh, good one! Hadn’t thought of that particular state of being magic-induced.
The calendar-machine immortals should be irrelevant now (although they might panic in the near future when they notice they’re aging again); golems are immortal in a different way. Jin and May just had the interesting quirk of being both.
I would think that the calendar machine is irrelevant to the immortals. The machine did not make them immortal, the energy’s released when it was created did that. The removal of the machine should hold no sway on that only the time loops that it created.
And just what is *that* bit of Glyph going to do? Ignite the table? Ignite the room? Ignite the world??
From what I remember it was only Monica saying a specific glyph which triggered Buds memories. The other times she said a glyph it meant nothing – in fact Tepoz was talking to her as though it was just a normal language when she said it.
She also shouted something in glyph when her thumb got stuck in Amanda’s car door, and that didn’t trigger anything supernatural…
….which, (and I suspect it was pointed out elsewhere), is the EXACT SAME THING Monica said.
True. Monica said a little more, but the last word is the same as what Jin is shouting above…
Sweet! Now we know how to swear in Glyph!
I wonder how many languages M can speak. We know she is fluent in English, Spanish, and Glyph, does she have any others? Before my wreck I had English, Spanish, Japanese, and swearing in Arabic with a smattering of French and German from home life and growing up as a military brat.
I always read those like Yosemite Sam…
“Rowrbazzle, gollywhombies and ryarghk!”
Possibly get a “Watch your language, or I’ll wash out your mouth with soap, young lady!” response from May?
Or, as the Chaplain on the Starship Intercourse said to Captain Quirk on one such occasion…
That was a good gizmo.
Pity they can’t do it to Bud + Brandi next.
Bud has always wanted to be human.
Brandi just kinda accepts what she is.
Jin just wanted to be able to die.
yup..human allright, and just as clumsy and prone to hitting extremities against furniture as I am….
She’s going to experience quite the learning curve.
Bruises, scars and paper-cuts
oh my 🙂
Ouch! Don’t remind me. Thiss morning, at work, I succeeded in crushing my thumb with the recycling container for coffee cups….don’t ask.. LOL
Man is the only creature that refuses to be what he is. ~Albert Camus
If Jin be mortal, be she normal?
“Man is the only animal that blushes – or needs to.” – Mark Twain
What if…. the battery was put in BACKWARDS? 😮 I know it doesn’t always affect things, but in some cases it can.
I would hope those fiddly things on the bottom of the artifact, where it plugs in, would make it impossible to install incorrectly.
Or maybe, being a true artifact, it creates its own socket, so that by definition it is never installed backwards. It might be in the wrong spot, but it’s always hooked up properly.
The thing that struck me was that she said that she was thirsty. If she needs to drink (and eat) she’s more human than she’s been in millennia.
Bud ‘needs’ coffee 😀
I got the thirsty but wrote it off as turning from Clay. They didn’t seem to be the wet clay, more like the kiln clay.
The clay or being stuck in a fire whilst being turned to dust ala a Chimera sneeze. (aka she is crispy…)
I just had a thought: Her personality seems to have changed. Whilst she didn’t like her life, she exuded self-confidence, strength and certainty. Now she seems to be vulnerable and unsure. How would Alan find the change?
She was always vunerable when it came to love and Alan.
Wish I knew where he was. Maybe at work…what does he do for work?
May installed in Jin a VERY charged power source that built up its charge in a forest where time went backwards.
Could the “cure” have been turning back the clock on Jin’s metamorphosis all the way back to when she was alive? Golem to clay to living girl?
You mean the oopart as a kind of time-absorber? Could be…sounds reasonable. A device that acts as a charcoal-absorber filter for time passed, when inserted in a, basucally, timeless creature.
Question is, was this ” humanization” something May knew would happen, of was this another case of ” sometimes experiments have unforseen results” ?
Bud and May may need help from the human they trust the most.
Monica, you have a new roommate!
She swears in glyphs!
I wonder what effect those will have?
None, Glyph was the language of the Lanthians, If every time they spoke it caused some kind of magical effect then Lanthis would have burned down long before the Chimera just from random conversations. The only reason it had an efect on the GGG was there were certain words that caused certain effects when used by a Glyph-reader in their presence. They were voice-activated, but only by someone that was authorized to use them, like M. Shelly could use Glyph all day long and not do a thing to the GGG because her voice was not on the authorized-to-use list. Maya taught M to speak Glyph and also to use the correct word to make her authorized to control them when Tepoz acknowledged it in their presence.I forgot the correct comic but I’m sure someone will make an exhaustive search of the archives to find it. IIRC it was during the “drunk college girls” stage of their relationship with M, right at the beginning.
And I got bored waiting for the comic to update and found it myself http://wapsisquare.com/comic/11122004/
So, the assumption is that she is human again… what implications are there for the chimera? it was three now it’s two?
can it function properly with just two of the three components?
if it comes to that will we ever see Monica lose it and set the Chimera loose on someone, or something?
With Jin the normal girl now, I don’t think the Chimera can be reformed unless another Golem Girl is recreated. I believe there are only two being on the planet who retain that knowledge. And I doubt they will be forth coming.
I wonder if May can be used as a Chimera body part.
Sure she wasn’t part of the original Chimera but maybe she could be.
From what I gather May is a Chimera just very small, less powerful and has full and complete control over herself.
nerf-dweller- What about the immortal priests? Some of them might know something about that process to.
I wasn’t at all sure that any of the Golem Girls could be permanently deactivated individually, for just that reason. The Chimera was a single unit. The recent strips suggest this is not the case…
On the other hand, the Golem Girls retain considerable firepower even in their human shapes.
No you are right
The chimera was a single entity but the immortals and Tepoz bosses split them into the three girls they once were.
Does Jin retain awesome firepower? If human/mortal now rather than immortal/golem, can she still ‘bring it’ ?
Aren’t those the same glyphs Mon yelled out when she slammed her thumb in a car door?
I’d add a link to that comic but I can’t recall how old it is, and when I type “thumb,” “glyph” or “glyphs” into the search bar, it comes up with nothing.
The EXACT SAME Glyphs. Good job on that, Pablo.
It seems to be just a curse, though, and not magic. There’s no warping of reality, after all. That we see…
Ahh. Same as the link I provided in a reply further up…
Jin’s mom, “Watch your language!”
This’ll probably take all week to sort out, maybe more…must…be…patient……..
She’s screaming “yôäth!” When Monica slammed her finger in the car door, she said “ôth grê yôäth!”
It seems to be a powerful “ôäth”. 😛
You have a pronunciation guide?
Once again, the Wapsi Wiki comes to the rescue:
Weird. I checked the Wiki, specifically looking for Glyph, but somehow missed it. Thanks for the link!
There’s a partial pronunciation guide on the Wiki: http://wapsisquare.wikia.com/wiki/Glyph
How does anyone know the pronunciation of any of the glyph characters in the first place?
If we all beg Paul enough, he might cough up the remainder of the alphabet. Of course, this presupposes that he has actually assigned sounds to each letter. I’ve been given to understand that Lanthian as a language is somewhat sketchy, and only enough to move the story along, as opposed to Na’vi which was purposefully designed and now hosts a functioning community of language geeks.
Ah, Navi … The new Klingon.
Did you ever get a copy of Shakespeare’s Works in the original Klingonese? I hear it’s really amazing.
“Bless You”. ( hands over hanky) 😆
I’m not going to believe this is actually Jin until Paul either confirms it, or we see very clear evidence in the comic…but I do agree that it seems the body’s turned human again…which is weird since May had suggested that this wasn’t possible.
It’s not Mays artifact. She didn’t know anything about it.
And yea..I agree..still unsure if it is Jin. She is acting young.
So maybe Monica and Jin are alike now… both humans who can speak glyph and poit.
And both humans who were deemed to be insane.
Lease Jin had May.
Wonder what happened to Jins dad. If May would do this for her daughter, what would she have done for her lover? Wonder if it is Cuchulain? Would explain how he knows Tepoz and why they feel responsible for the Chimera and protecting things to do with it 🙂
Yesterday, she talked about feeling cold, now she bonks her shin. Probably that kind of hit where you sorta rub the edge along the shinbone a bit, which really, really hurts. Golem or not, that has to be worthy of polylingual invective.
Yea that bone does tend to aim for hard edges.
I am sure the human body subconciously deliberatly tries to cause its owner pain.
Every time you have a papercut – that cut will touch EVERYTHING!
“Why is the brain always doing things that will hurt the body? You step into a dark room, the hand reaches for the light switch, and the brain goes ‘Don’t turn on that light!’
“The hand’s like ‘Huh?’ and the eyes are like ‘Dark, man – we can’t see nothin’.
And the brain says ‘I know my way around! I don’t need the light!’
“Meanwhile, the toes, who have heard all this before, are going ‘No, man – turn on the light…'”
Looking at Jin, I have the vague inkling that creepy-girl was part of Jin’s conscience, and not a separate entity or ghost.
I remember creepy girl looking and smiling up to Jin in the Ski-doo case. A bit as if part of Jin, a part that scared her to no end -shame, conscience has a habit of doing that- finally gave the ” go” for Jin to enjoy life at last.
As I stated earlier, WS is a tale about redemption from the most unimaginable evil. The destruction of a complete people/continent/culture, out of uncontrolled anger.
Jin manifested her shame and sadness in a,for her, tangible creature: creepy dead zombie-girl. A manifestation given more gravitas/power/impact thruogh her schizophrenia.
Ask any person suffering from schizophrenia, and he/she will tell that the voices and apparitions are as real to them, as Your world is to you, even if, on closer scrutiny, it is apparent that in some cases it’s a character trait of the sufferer him/herself, given a palpatable -be it only to the sufferer- reality.
Pinoccio got her wish now. She can die, but with her character whole again, i doubt that Jin still feels the need to “free” herself by dying.
And on Jin’s -by times acerbic base-character traits, the ones Alan prolly fell for, I do not believe they’ve changed.
As it seems now, only the “loony” – bit has been removed. The rest is still there.
I like that idea 🙂
Jin deserves a kinda reward from the universe.
May did deserve to be punished and seem to get that ten-fold in the demon realm. How long did she spend there in her time i wonder. Bud was gone a few mins and it seemed to her she was gone a while. Perhaps 1year per 10mins?
Hopefully it is what you state with Jin 🙂
Multiple choice or essay answers?
Sheik- and PASS, FAIL outcomes.
Anyone seen Owen lately?
What will be his reactions to the ‘Fixed’ Jin?
‘you’re human? lets go skiing. you will sooo love extreme sports now you can be killed!’
last we saw Owen he was with Lakshmi in front of a picket fence. Alan is Jin’s current beau.
my brain should have picked that one up. Clearly it went sleep before I did yesterday 🙂
Oh, crap. Monica may have been groomed (by May?) to be Jin’s replacement in the Chimera.
Think about it: During the time loop repair, and the deactivation of the Calendar Machine, Monica was demonstrated to have a face-glyph. She also had a spike jammed into her head, during a time she was rendered unkillable, and its still in there. Now, part of the Chimera is no longer a golem. That last bit may have dire consequences for the other two parts, Bud and Brandy, which would be the necessary motivation for M to consent to it (if such consent was needed)
Actually, the spike isn’t there – in this reality. It’s in a different plane entirely, i think.
And, likewise, it wasn’t actually jammed into her head – it sort of phased in without causing physical damage.
I’d point out that Monica was told not to go through any airport metal detectors. Not that she needs to. The spike is still there. It’s the key that locked her closed as a portal for the rouge demons.
Wether that makes her a canidate to be included in a reformed Chimera is anybody’s guess, but I’d say that breaking the Chimera was a permanant thing. Unless May suddenly becomes a villan in a story where the bad guys are dead millenia ago, I can’t see why she’d want to reform it.
nah, that was just Monica’s Doubt being facetious… it’s doing it’s JOB by sowing, um, well Doubt…
i agree with fairportfan, the broken off blade piece isn’t in this dimension anymore (see how M was paisley when it went in; to me that implies she’s been “altered” somehow and not entirely in this dimension at least not while the hammer is ringing.) and if the blade WAS, then M wouldn’t be around to talk about it, she’d be in the hospital with a blade practically carving her brain into two separate pieces! take a look here: http://wapsisquare.com/comic/a-special-place-in-hell/ that thing is almost 4 inches long… now measure from the top of your skull down 4 inches!: you come out right about the center of your head… lots o’ brain tissue to get sliced thru…
If i remember right, Monica’s face light was actually caused by May, as per this comic: http://wapsisquare.com/comic/madetheconnection/
Well, I’m still bored…
Incidentally the GGG aren’t the only formerly dead people around here. I died exactly 10 years ago this very moment, plus about 20 minutes. No pulse or respiration when the first people on the scene got to my body. I still have the helmet I was wearing the night I died, and it’s a mess. You wouldn’t think anyone would have survived wearing that, and you would be right, sort of (badump, kisssshhh!). Be sure to tip your brisket and try the waitress…
Poet? Rather Opus the Zombie 😉 (Seriously: happy second birthday! And happy deathday too (okay, that one wasn’t quite as serious ;-))
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