The dialect, it amazes me.
The more of it i read, the more it sounds like Popeye:
“That all I can stands, ‘cos I can’t stands no more!”
Or – I y’am what I y’am
And that’s all that I y’am…except Euryale is much more. 🙂
How come I’m suddenly hungry for fried chicken and yams. Or maybe a hamburger, for which I will gladly pay you next Thursday.
I always found that distracting, too.
It could be a form of defence.
Some peeps judge others on the way they speak a lot. They are less likely to be interested in a slang ‘country?’ accent like Euridale has than a posh accent.
Perhaps an advanced form of camaflague for interacting with the population of aggresive beings (humans) who are well known for murdering anything they do not understand?
Or maybe its just an accent 😛
I would tend to agree with you on this one. I mean if my sister was beheaded by a sword happy prince and then had this myth spread about her, I would want to avoid bringing myself to the attention of others too.
no 🙂 its just the way they talk!!! some Europeans who learned in London, think people in Birmingham speak a totally different language!!! 😀
even some *native* English find it difficult to understand ! :O
Her dialect is sounding more and more like Tennessee mountain.
I swear she’s gotta be from somewhere in the Appalachia territories.
Maark30 & Stigmartyr762 are both right 🙂
Welcome to true Southern Belle speak. That’s the way our ladies speak down South.
Yup. When she has said enough I started hearing a friend of mine that is a true southern belle (3 generations living from the Ozarks to North Florida)
That could be a different pronunciation of “Lanthian”, or it could possibly be a reference to a different ancient country or civilization that supplied Lanthis with some of its technology?
Either way, it looks as if we’re going to be hearing about some interesting back-story now!
“Like” —> “Lack”
Lanthinean — Lakhenaten
Yes, it fits. Part of Dialect tends to be the rounding, smoothing, or flattening of vowels/consonants.
This, that, these, those — Dis, dat, deese, dose…
If it was sharpened, you’d get: Tis, tat, teese, tose (toes).
And how often does that happen?
‘En hou offen toes tat heppen?
Yeah…but where did the “k” come from? Besides, she seems perfectly capable of saying “Lanthis” without abusing it. Why would she abuse the pronounciation of “Lanthian”?
I’m thinking that languages evolve like species. Birmingham and London dialects are diverging–and without Radio and TV, plus the printed word, might have become separate languages by now.
Also, when a language (or species) becomes small and fragmented–like when Lanthis slipped under the waves–evolution tends to happen faster. Look at the late Ammonites, which tended to have wildly evolved shapes. Similarly, when the central core of Lanthanites vanished, the isolated pockets would have drifted faster.
Still doesn’t explain where that extra pesky K came from–but might explain why it stuck around to plague us.
“There was no L in Egyptian. But Egyptian scribes used the lion (lying down), which was a form of R, for the foreign L.”
Link is not exactly a scholarly authority, but I believe “L” is not a Egyptian phoneme.
Bucc-i in a thread below mentions Plato, who spread the story of Atlantis in his Timaeus and Critias. Plato was also interested in etymology, and the source of meaning in language. He has Socrates going on at length about word-origins in Cratylus.
So Plato could be taking his information from an older resource then still stored in Egypt, and translating the name directly into something pronounceable in his native dialect of Greek.
“There is reason, I think in calling the lion’s whelp a lion, and the foal of a horse a horse; I am speaking only of the ordinary course of nature, when an animal produces after his kind, and not of extraordinary births; if contrary to nature a horse have a calf, then I should not call that a foal but a calf; nor do I call any inhuman birth a man, but only a natural birth.”
Did not see this post 😀
Ah well.. I picked that up also!
Maybe Lanthian Mk2 🙂
They say that some atlantians created the first pyramids (not just in egypt) so some lanthians must have survived. Maybe moved from the continent (which had been vapourized) to an island?
Its just like on the movie Stargate when Dr. Jackson (David Spader) finds out that all this time, he’s been prouounceing ancient Egyptian words wrong!
May i contribute one very small and worried
Oh, by all means. A graceful expression of concern is always appreciated 🙂
Now, if Euryale should happen to use the word “iridium” in conversation, any time in the next little while, I would probably recommend taking your “uh oh” and raising the gain to 11. Possibly higher. Much, much higher.
I’m waiting for the pat where Monica tells Eurale that she has
of Lanthian technology on speed-dial.
I’m not at all sure that’d be a call I would want to make, or have answered!
@Vorlonagent – out of curiosity – does your nym refer more to the Lyta end of the spectrum, or to the Sebastian? 😉
Euryale knows about the time loop being unmade, so she might know about May being freed.
There’s also the issue of how any present-day USO-piloting Lakenatens feel about people who control Chimeras.
And, y’know, vice versa.
See – I’m from Canada originally – but it all sounds right to me (:>))
Lathis became Atlantis because early Europeans talked funny.
Speaking of funny accents, I can’t help but imagine that she’s pronouncing it as, “Like hen a ten.” XD
No. It came from a 3rd rate merchant peddling left over junk from the culture after it went underwater. Somebody spooted something strange and asked him ‘Where did you get that?’. He promptly replied ‘At Lantis.’
That has been my thought since the Lathian connection was first brought up.
Seems legit to me. 🙂
Atlantis was actually a Greek word. Plato said it was a translation from Egyptian. Which in turn was a translation from Atlantian.
Its like that game where you whisper in someones ear, then they whisper in someones ear, etc… what’s that game called?
Or (and i prefer this one), “Gossip”.
@Fairportfan – away from this story – would you have bmonk check the Reno Gazette paper – type Hamlet at UNR into the search – doing it in Original Dialect – with modern dress – thought it might interest him .
I mean, “Sent”.
Many thanks – you might like it aalso .
Stupid fingers .
Joss Whedon has done a modern-dress “As You Like It”. It may actually be released.
this has Briitish actor Ben Crystal – his had Davis id the Linguist at the Shakespeare;s Globe – this is World Premiere in Original Dialect – there were 4 0thers done also in Original.
Dad – more stupid fingers .
I’ve seen “King Lear” done live by Kenneth Branagh with the actors in Edwardian dress. That actually worked fairly well.
The strangest Shakespearean staging I’ve seen was “Anthony and Cleopatra” done by the Canadian Stratford Company at Stratford, Ontario, with everyone in 1930s dress. Roman legionaries with pith helmets and puttees and carrying Lee-Enfields looked a bit strange but the rest worked OK.
Try the Flying Karamozov Brothers performing “A Comedy of Errors”
One town was business oriented, and one was inhabited by circus performers (and they dressed accordingly).
Original Dialect is something like the accent of the Virginia Piedmont that’s slowly getting pushed out in favor of a NoVa accent, isn’t it?
If you want “weird” Shakespeare adaptations, there’s always Akira Kurosawa.
Wasn’t there also a remake of Hamlet done, oh, 10 or 20 years back using the original text, but in which “sword” was a brand of guns? I’m thinking it was the 2000 version by Michael Almereyda.
Woot! Woot! I Called It!!… can i get my Moxana points in small, unmarked denominations please?
Yup… major prescience credits are due. She’s a walking tome of informational goodness.
I’m all out of Moxana points, but I’ll be glad to compensate with a coupon good for a free coffee or dessert at The Country Gourmet.
Dead on! I bow to your superior prescience, o master.
Of course, your “superior prescience” is likely to last about 24 or 48 hours, in my experience. But, for today, congratulations!
oh, absoposolutely correct, it’ll last a VERY short time… but it’s nice to be right at least ONCE in a while! 😀
Why, what an AMAZING coincidence – but, as they say on Diskworld, ‘Million to one longshots crop up nine times out of ten.”
And History Channel has had those UFO Reprts episodes about USO’s. I still think, even with ‘advanced technology’ it would be nigh-impossible to engineer a flying-submarine-spacecraft…..
Let the debate begin!
I don’t trust coincidence. I’ve seen way too much to trust coincidence. Oh… wait… was this debate supposed to be about aliens? I don’t trust them either.
And coincidental aliens are RIGHT OUT….
Not coincidence. scantrontb called it: Monica asked the Library for information on the vimana cells, so it provided all that it had within the parameters Monica defined — including an introduction to Euryale, then in the Library, who knew about vimana cells.
The Library is scarily efficient.
Oh definitely…You should never trust coincidental aliens!
And speaking of Flying Subs, I believe that someone brought up the Seaview over the weekend…
Any time some one brings up flying submarines, I flash back to reading about Tom Swift, Jr’s Flying Seacopter as a boy.
So Atlantis never sank.. it submerged.
like a submarine?
So … it is around somewhere?
Or does she mean it was distroyed by the Chimera…
Maybe Lanthian Mk2? 😀
I’m thinking that maybe the Lanthians were using a technology that they did not invent and did not entirely understand… and it got away from them somehow and had some unfortunate effects on a few nearby subduction zones?
That might have been the Great Chimera Unpleasantness, or possibly another incident.
Yup, looks like it. Plutonium thingies do not fit in with loincloth, knives and crossbows.
Jin and her Mom could be the only remaining reresentatives of a civilization before Lanthians, hence their “magician” status.. (remember Arthur C Clarke whenever “Magic” is mentioned)
Or Robert Heinlein
And speaking of Mr. H: this story-line might be evolving into a direction somewhat reminiscent of Heinlein’s Lost Legacy.
We know that there’s at least one Olde Civilization (Lanthis) but we don’t have any strong reason to believe that it was the only one, nor necessarily the highest… and we don’t know what sorts of capabilities the people might have had back then.
Perhaps the ability to poit was much more commonplace? Maybe everyone could brew up a really excellent cup of dark-roast Sumatra with lemon zest, and not just enigmatic demonplex baristas?
or better yet, Florence Ambrose.
Or Florence. (:
Or Agatha Heterodyne…
I much prefer to keep Agatha in mind. 🙂
Okay then. What if the city was submerged when the powers that be finally realized that they’ve lost control of the Chimera. And the only way they were going to save themselves from it’s rampage that destroyed more than a quarter of the first world, was by sinking the city beneath the waves where the Chimera could reach them?
Aaaaat-lantis is a city at the bottom of the sea
It’s soggier now than it used to be
‘Cause it used to be above, now it’s down below
It’s the watter-logged city of Atlantis!
way down, below the ocean,
where i want to be
she may be
way down, below the ocean
far beneath the sea…
I liked both your link and throopw‘s.
Fairportfan: So Cool. Is there somewhere/One who may have these old shows on DVD or VHS? Love to see the Whole thing. Was too young when it aired first-run,and parents wouldn’t let me watch.
Funny, That wasn’t s’pose t’ happen. [all bold]
OK, another Donovan fan makes his voice heard.
Atlantis is at the Bottom of the sea.
Yes, it surely Ys!
Hmm. Similar to the concept of an “Earth Cradle” maybe?
Chimera appears, Lanthis burrows/submerges to ride out the storm while the rest of the planet gets turned to glass?
Monica’s beau already called it, waaaaay back.
I thought Mon herself called ‘at Lanthis’ once when she was talking to herself….could be wrong tho….
No, I clearly remember that point, it was M (won’t look up the comic, tho, got work to do…) 🙂
M certainly called it first, but Kevin did make the same leap during that first “tell all” conversation they had at the coffee shop. 🙂
Aw, shucks. More mythos mixology. Now where does Aten and his underground Nile come into this? What’s the sun god’s tie-in or deal with Lanthis? Some ancient underground CERN lab working on an ancient power source that maybe later chimera traumatized generations likened to the first circle of hell? And the four rivers were needed to cool off the reactors?
And coincidentally, why is The Abyss running across my TV? I rented it like three days ago.
I’m going to to mix up a Georgia Peach Ice Tea now.
I don’t know how closely related Ancient Egyptian is to the Semitic languages, but in those, appending an L to the beginning of a word means “to” or “at.” Perhaps Lakhenaten means “to the living spirit of Aten.” I don’t know what significance that would have, but it’s a start if Egyptian was at all related to the Semitic Languages.
Akhetaten was a city mentioned in documents from the 1300’s BCE, during the reign of the pharoh Amenhotep IV, also known as Akhetaten. the city of Akhenaten is beleived to have been another name for the city of Armana in egypt.
given the existance of a “true history of the world” and immortals in the Wapsi Square universe, perhaps the egyptian city of the same name was created as a remembrance of Lakhetaten? Akhetaten the egyptian city was described as “the place of origin” and the home of Aten…
In the latter part of the twenty-first century, Sun Oil Company developed time travel and decided to exploit some oil fields in the Middle East… I’m joking okay?! This was in no way intended to be subverting any protocols. Really. Honest.
Ooo…I like the “four rivers cooling reactors” idea. 🙂
It would be kind of neat to plot out exactly how the various mythologies interlace and overlap from Wapsi realty though. I don’t know if we’ll ever have the complete tale though, so maybe we’ll just have to build that matrix as we go. 🙂
FINALLY! The shoe or should I say the flipper drops. I knew it was only a matter of time before my suspicions were confirmed about the Lanthians.
And, I’m pretty sure Euryale knows how it got changed to Atlantis as well.
But she just said she’s not sure…unless she’s going to share a very good guess with us.
She best have one helluva doozy of a guess then. I think she knows more than she’s letting on.
Oh so cute in the last panel… :3
I’m clearly behind the times, since – not once – have I heard a modern scientist utter the phrase “unidentified submerged object.”
An intriguing concept, though; makes me think of “Sphere” by Michael Crichton.
That depends on how you define “Scientist”.
If you mean someone with a Phd. in a scientific discipline from a major University, then no, you probably won’t hear it.
If you mean someone investigating Unexplained Phenomena in a scientific manner, no matter what their educational background, you can hear “Unidentified Submerged Object.”
OK, I’ll rephrase: I’ve never heard anyone use the phrase “unidentified submerged object.”
I haven’t heard that particular phrase used, either. However, similar terms such as “underwater anomaly” do show up.
There are many reports of alleged/possible buildings and megalithic artifacts, now under ocean level in various parts of the world. My guess is that many are entirely natural structures, mistakenly interpreted as manmade… but some may not be.
Google “Bimini road” and “Yonaguni” for a couple of examples.
Well, apart from the over 6′ height and the slightly clawed fingers, she could pass for a regular human… But that hairdo is really an eye-catcher 🙂
And there seems to open up a whole new angle on the Lanthis business… Does this imply that there are Lanthian subs/undersea cities in our blue waters?
Yes, we just keep mistaking them for Deep Ones.
I’m not sure what fascinates me more, her accent or her hair…
All credit to Monica though for not batting much of an eyelid. Then again, I guess she experienced far more odd things than that.
Hell, Medusa or not, I LOVE this character; she’s a total hoot! 😀
Oh Yes, Euryale is indeed a cutie. And just what Monica needs. Wait! Monica DID ask the Library for Info on Vimina cells. M meets Euryale, who knows ’bout ‘V- Sayells’and Possible way of locating them…Maybe Monicas’ meeting was The Libraries way of GIVING Monica THE INFORMATION SHE REQUESTED! WHOA!
Euryale does sound like Paula Dean when I read this.
I knew the part of going under water by accident or natural disaster wasn’t right.
Wow, her accent is getting thicker methinks. XD
Probably getting more comfortable with Monica.
Yup, the accent is getting stronger in this one. IINCM
A Southern-Belle, Ice Medusa. Damn it Paul, where/how do you come up with these things!?
Bokeh Effect wallpaper!
Very nice – thank you .
Wow. Eurayle’s accent is getting very hard and irritating to try to read. Sort of like the thick German accent the Foglios have the Jägermonsters speak in “Girl Genius.”
Hyu vantz everyvun to shpeak like Peter Jennings, Ja? 😛
I *love* the Jägers… okay, so I’m German. But I love this sometimes pretty weird language (but then, which language isn’t) being mocked. (And I sometimes find them hard to decipher, since it’s mock-German.)
You know “Lakhenaten” could be an adjective describing the type of Lanthian technology, much like we use “aero-space” or “Formula One” to describe high-tech manufacturing processes.
after reading all the comments above, i’m still under the impression that “Lakhenaten” is the original (maybe?) spelling, that time and unfamiliarity turned into “Lanthian” which even further removed, get turned into “Lantian” and finally just like zacharaiaha up top said about the merchant saying “At Lantis” when asked where he got something, which was mistaken for the whole name of the place,”Atlantis”…
as for Euryale saying something about how the real Atlantis sinking isn’t jiving with how the stories say… well if it was just like Atlantis was portrayed in Stargate Atlantis, the city was just a really really huge ship (ok maybe not a space-ship, but…), that due to damage sustained from the Chimera, it was unable to stay afloat and therefore “sank”; which tends to put a different light on Jin’s statement:
any of the lower-tech societies around may have had ships in the harbors that may or may not have been able to survive in order to bring the story out to the rest of the world. and of course some of the facts got lost in mistakes during the various translations required, some were lost due to exaggerations from “I gotta have a BETTER story than YOU” type B.S. and some more to just simple “oops, i forgot exactly what i heard so I’ll guesstimate” type mistakes.
Was it also a Delta Hub?
Ah gotta re-vew that Cameron movie ‘The Abyss’ Director’s Cut of course…
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