Bud is probably run out of patience with emo people after dealing with Jin for so long. I wonder if she is that much stronger or if Shelley’s power is not working?
Well, for starters, Shelly’s strength is fueled by adrenaline, so it’s situational.
Secondly, in terms of strength, Shelly’s probably on par with Captain America, ie she does 1000 lb reps for conditioning & benches 2-3 tons, but Bud’s on par with Superman, Gladiator or “Green Scar” Hulk.. Whole different ballgame.
Too Late!!!!!!! I love how Bud is so calm about everything lately!
it’s a particular kind of serene smugness of someone who’s seen some shit and is content with themself.
Or the smugness that comes with being able to do or say anything you want, knowing no one can physically retaliate against you.
Man, if I had such an ability (along with poiting) there would quickly come a day of reconing for the murdering bastards of the world. Time would be up for the leaders of organized crime, drug lords, terrorists, petty dictators, and especially for those who torture and murder children. Anyone who steps up to take their place, ends up the same, until no one will dare do it again. Not saying I would kill them all, at least put them behind bars or do something to them to put the fear of me into them. Not everyone who commits a crime (probably would not be possible anyway), just the worst. The ones who make places in the world a horrible and dangerous place to live.
Mind you, I would still remain a mild mannered patient at a private mental institution as I am now, just take care of business in my free time.
I have given thought to having the golem girls powers and came to similar conclusions. But I must admit to wanting to extend the retribution to those who rush to get in front of me and then drive 10 mph below the speed limit.
I hero all wrong.
Heh…You’re not the only one. I frequently told my friends that if I could have any Bond gadget, I’d have a car that launched missiles so I could blow up any annoying drivers who got between me and my destination.
I road rage hard…though my best friend thinks it’s the funniest thing he’s ever heard…
If you could poit, why would you be driving?
I wouldn’t poit everywhere. Besides, driving is fun.
I feel sorry for the idiots who insist on zooming up to within ten feet of my bumper, and then staying back there rather than passing. I even get mad at them when they insist on doing this at night, shining their lights into my rear window.
“when you go to fight monsters take care that you do not become them. For when you stare into the abyss the abyss also stares into you” -Nietzsche
LMAO!! I <3 Bud!
It would be nice if she would help Shelly up, though. 🙂
Well said, Bud!
Damn. Bud’s manic today.
Is it me, or does Bud look her sexiest when she’s about to rip off Shelly’s arm?
I love Bud. She’s so mellow about everything lately.
To be fair, I’ve had a very similar hold used on me in Judo. It doesn’t matter about strength at that point, it’s all leverage. You can’t get leverage when your arm is like that….
So what is the counter-measure? A back flip to right the arm?
I really have no idea. In Karate the instructors occasionally tried to demonstrate holds like that, ooh and the one where the arm is twisted all the way up the back and it never hurt occasionally i fell over but just because of the leverage
I don’t know judo but I do know kid-brother-fights and if you’re lucky you can reach over with your other arm and tickle them. They let you go. Then you rip their hair out. 🙂
Maybe one could do the back flip thing, bringing the leg nearest the opponent up and planting the foot into the opponent’s face. Naw, that would only work in the movies.
Bud is holding the left hand above and behind the left shoulder. Once the shoulder is behind the feet, you’re going down.
Before it gets to that point, you can get your left foot back behind you and turn left 180, turning toward your opponent so you face them. This brings your hand in front of you. Keep going, grab the back of their hand with your right hand palm up. Now both of your hands are palm up with their hand in the middle. Step back, extend your arms while pulling down to your knee as you squat. Now they go down!
Summary: Turn inside, grab/trap the hand, step back and pull down with palms up.
Moving toward your opponent usually gives you the advantage because their prior motion toward you lets you steer them with your counter-move. YMMV
Ok, so why is she very strong? Could the best existing female body builder or weight lifter heave an engine across a workshop or crush a frothing pitcher like it was paper? Shelly has a rather slight frame, especially the lower portion, despite her muscles. Throwing an engine like she did should have caused serious back or hip problems at the least. It may not be supernatural in origin, but there has to be more to this. Also, Bud is not one to determine what is really strong in humans, being she has the strength of several thousand nuclear weapons combined. Her frame of reference it way too high.
And Bud is right, she is already a freak by bulking up as she has.
nahh she’s a freak for getting involved in all this and not turning herself in to the loonie bin
I don’t know if they can toss engines, but according to Answers.com, the heaviest weight lifted by a woman was 679 kilos by one Laurel Trinh. Apparently that’s just shy of 1500 lbs. Not too shabby I’d say.
Plus additional googling found references to a 115 lb woman who lifted 187 lbs with each arm…I doubt that a well muscled core would make Shelly’s mid-section look bigger, and the core is what helps support someone’s back. Besides, we’re dealing in comic physiology…of course she doesn’t look like she could do that without hurting herself. 😛
Heh! The engineer in me is thinking “Conservation of Momentum!” I don’t care how strong she is, if she suddenly tossed an engine horizontally, she would going flying in the opposite direction faster than the engine was going, unless she braced herself against something that was immovable. Also, I couldn’t look at the strip with her lifting the weight with her toe without thinking of the wire or line gouging into her toe.
And that children is why you ALWAYS bolt the flamethrower to the floor…
meh, sorta. But a good stance can provide a bunch of support provided you can get the friction, and remember that most “throws” of large heavy objects would be achieved by pulling the object in an arc. This gets it up too speed, then you release, so it’s not a “push” and has different dynamics 🙂
If I recall, the 1500 lbs was secured on a table. Then she got under the table, balanced the weight over her hips, and lifted with her legs. Not quite the same as what Shelly’s been doing.
“Plus additional googling found references to a 115 lb woman who lifted 187 lbs with each arm”
Um, not quite. That was 187 lbs using both arms together. She can do 156 in the snatch lift and 187 lbs in a clean and jerk lift. There is a video that shows her doing some snatch lifts here. The clean and jerk lift is a two-step lift.
@Ross & eschmenk – Bah! It’s not like I put a lot of effort into finding out the answers to his questions. I simply googled it, and pulled information from the first couple of sites I saw…verbatim. Their error, not mine. 😛
I’m glad you mentioned the one. Did you see the video? I’m still impressed.
Actually, I didn’t. Like I said, I just pulled some stuff verbatim from the sites…I’ll have to hunt down this video of which you speak. 🙂
It *is* supernatural and she DOES have superpowers. They just don’t work unless she’s not thinking about it because she’s immature and not prepared to deal with the responsibility or consequences.
The engine block, the teapot — none of this stuff happens unless she doesn’t “know” at the time that she can’t do it.
Except Paul himself has implied that Shelly’s strength is not supernatural, or indeed “super.” So Tina is screwing with Shelly’s head, or Paul is screwing with our heads, or….somebody is screwing with somebody’s head. That much is obvious.
Everyone is screwing with everyones head… I’m screwing with my head… that came out wrong
I’m screwing on my head. Does that count? 😛
*snorts* Reality is such a cruel thing. hehe
I really don’t think Bud is the benchmark on whether or not someone’s strength qualifies as a power. I do wonder the extent of Shelly’s strength though.
We’re led to believe it’s limitless.
Shelly’s? Nah. Her limits are whatever Bud dishes out. 😛
Was Bud always this big? I always thought Shelly is larger than her…
Actually, Shelly appearsonly a little taller than Monica. Maybe by 6” or so. That’s the impression I’ve gotten, anyway.
Shelly has referred herself as 5’5″ before. Don’t ask me where…I read it last night, but I went through a few years of re-reading last night…
Bud is just a few inches taller than Shelly.
That’s neat the way the answer to that question was “that’s why.”
Yep! That’s the one I was thinking of. 😀
Yeah!! This is my birthday comic. I am now two decades old.
And glad to see it stars my favorite charactar, Bud!! XD
Into old maid territory already. Happy day of birth celebration, nonetheless. One more year and you can legally puke your guts out from binge drinking.
LOL!! I can, but I won’t. XD
See the venerable wiseness is setting in allready!
Heehee, nah. That set in at about age 16. XD
Happy birthday!! 😀
Shelly has already had a career as a crime-fighter (starting here)
What would be epic is if she and Lakshmi became, uh, sidekicks of each other (Shelly has the dominant personality, but Lakshmi dominates physically – not sure who would be Batman to the others Robin)
Er, starting in episode 05/09/2003, that is. Never quite sure how these work. ?
Gonna get this to work!
AAArgh! NOTDilbert SMASH!
Shelly has already had a career as a crime-fighter <a href=”http://wapsisquare.com/comic/05092003/”>starting here</a>
(I think i got that right.)
Let’s try the direct approach http://wapsisquare.com/comic/05092003/
That’s no fun.
That is such a cool example. I sure that has to help somebody who wants to do a link like that. Must now take the time to look at the source code to see how you did it.
Where did my ‘m go? I get the links right and lose the ability to write a sentence in English. Arrg. 🙂
I wish you hadn’t typed your second comment. I wasn’t confused until I read that one. 😛
Anyway, here is one way, at least:
<a href=”http://wapsisquare.com/comic/05092003/”>starting here</a>
Fairportfan is using right double quotes instead of standard double quotes. The standard ones are actually correct and would show OK. I think you may be able to get away with leaving the closing angled bracket (greater than sign) symbols alone if you don’t have any opening brackets to match with them. If so, you will see one here: >
This is an experiment to see how much HTML i can get away with:
<blockquote>Shelly has already had a career
as a crime-fighter <a
I put in the angle brackets by using the HTML codes for them: < and >
(And i made the ampersands in that sentence by typing &…)
I didn’t use the typographic quotes – the site formats things in a “blockquote” that way. I typed straight quotes.
eschmenk & Fairportfan: Very interesting guys, thanks for the info!
It seems the site is using typographic quotes in all of the comments. I just hadn’t noticed because the font size is normally so small.
I thought you were going to link this one…
I thought of that one first, too. 🙂 Then again, I do like the other one better.
If ever i saw a classic example of “With friends like these…”
THANK you, FPF. I must now turn in my geek membership card, and possibly, relenquish my gravatar to someone more Dibert-ish (although it is a very good likeness of me)
Put away the hammer. 猿も木から落ちる。(A Japanese proverb, “even monkeys fall out of trees,” meaning “even an expert can bollix up a job on occasion.”
Actually, the fun part was getting the angle brackets to show, since if i’d typed the actual character, it would have been actual HTML and disappeared.
Not to be a smartass or anything, but I just copy and paste from the addy window…
What Fairportfan meant is that to make the angle brackets appear, he probably typed < to make each < symbol and > to make each >. You can’t just type those symbols, otherwise they get interpreted as HTML. All anyone would have seen in that case would have been a working link. (If it winds up being invalid html, it gets thrown out.)
Just now I had to go one level beyond what Fairportfan did and type & to make the ampersand symbols, and so I could tell you that much. I did it to the ampersand in this sentence, too.
@Jabberwonky: You won’t get any geek cred doing it the easy way. 😛
Only give up your geek card if you quit learning and enjoying the technological world. It is the curiosity and desire to understand how things work that makes geeks geeks. Besides, your handle is NOTDilbert so you’re good anyhow. ☺
Can I be a low tech geek, i break electronics. I like paper… but I am the only person that i know from my generation who read Inferno and Paradise Lost in less than one year.
Geek power!!!!! stand together and we rule the world, stand apart and we are its slaves!!!
*rolls d20* yes you are allowed low tech geek status. 😉
Alright, I’ll stay. I wish I hadn’t given away my only html bookseveral years ago. NEVER GIVE AWAY YOUR BOOKS!
I like books too, and have regretted giving away some of them. With the technological stuff, though, it isn’t actually necessary to have books(though it is handy) because of the world wide web. http://www.w3schools.com/ and http://www.opera.com/company/education/curriculum/ are informative and free
Wapsi is so full of wonderful, colorful characters that I would love to have in my circle of friends…
Be a wonderful and colorful character yourself and maybe you will draw others like that to you. At the least, you may become that character type to someone else wishing the same wish.
“Be the character you want to see in the world.”
Has been known to happen…
a typical joke for my friends
“red bull may give you wings but power thirst gives you birds”
“And if you are Apollo you get BOTH…”
*cue sequence of lewd jokes involving greek gods, Birds and Yeats*
sooo…if she ISN”T super-strong….why bring up the subject in the first place? Seems like they’re messing with her mind more than anything else.
She is super strong, they just think she’s being emo and annoying by using the word “power”.
Perhaps Tina’s version of “Doubt” is asserting herself after being smacked around by Nudge for all these years?
Characters that say “I don’t want powers/talents/etc, I just want to be normal”, always piss me off. Being normal sucks.
Deformities are freakish, being above average isn’t.
Normal created this screwed up world. I’m happy not to be in that demographic. Being normal has to be an illness.
“I don’t have to be normal. I work with computers”
-Unknown computer technician.
But Shelly isn’t the only strong woman in the story. http://wapsisquare.com/comic/06092003/
Too bad she got hit by a bus.
No, that was Monica. Lakshmi knew where the doors were.
See ‘Cursed with Awesome’ on tvtropes…
Second, curse you and Opus both for putting trope links up…like I don’t have too little free time anyway…
To be fair to Shelly, Tina just warned her that she should have a plan in case others found out how strong she was. Tina lumped Shelly’s strength in with Monica’s poiting ability and the golems themselves. I can’t blame her for thinking she had superpowers. I still think they are something beyond what people could normally obtain just be exercising, though.
BTW, in case anyone missed it, notice where Shelly is in the last panel. Funny!
I ♥ these characters…
And then Shelly, enraged, grabs Bud and smashs her through the floor… Much to Tina’s distress…
Shelly has super strength. She doesn’t have invulnerability. That’s not a good combo. Her bones and skin and soft tissues are apparently harder than normal so she can lift enormous weights and strike and crush things without breaking or permanetly damaging herself, but she’s still much stronger than a human being should be. Bud’s ‘test’ isn’t very valid.
But her advice is pretty straight on. Shelly can’t have her strength removed, and she probably wouldn’t want it gone if she could. She needs to quit whining and just accept the way things are.
…and Bud, landing next to the doll, laughs and laughs and laughs…
I really think Bud needs lithium or the supernatural equivalent…
Bud or you?
I have a touch of bi-polar. I’ve been that manic once or twice … it usually is followed by a spectacular crash.
Bud doesn’t come across as manic at all to me. She’s a little impulsive, but not abnormally so.
I know manic when i am … errr … see it.
If what you see in Bud now is manic, than my friends and I are all manic.
heh heh…Shelley’s being emo. Wonder if she’ll want some decaf now…
She’ll never grow her hair long enough to comb it over one eye…
So what if Shelly’s a freak? She’s our feak, (and possibly a distant relative of mine) and we love her for it.
I suppose if Supergirl tells you you don’t have powers, you probably don’t.
I don’t think it’s really a pass fail kinda thing. Lots of comic book types with super strength couldn’t even come close to matching Bud’s. She could probably crush the hulk into a little diamond on accident…
The Hulk’s physical strength is unlimited. As long as he has the means to apply it, and is angry enough, he’s strong enough for anything.
I’m no expert on the Hulk, but since Bud always has pretty darn phenomenal strength at her leteral fingertips, couldn’t she crush the Hulk before he got angry enough to come close?
Wow, that was a fast turn around! Going from this to “I don’t want to be some freak!” Around the company she keeps, she should feel freaky being normal.
Good point. Of course, she’s not the only one who does stuff like that.
I think she’s referring to how each has a reasonable facsimile of multiple personality disorder in that strip.
For whatever reason I really like the Bud in the last panel. Its somehow adorable looking.
Bud’s being no more mean to Shelly than any of my friends would be to me when I was whining about something. 😛
People are their own worst enemy. We see imperfection in ourselves when they don’t exist. When we do have a minor imperfection we blow it all out of proportion. We are our own worst critics.
no Kidding and it causes bigger problems,
for a superficial example i have this nasty habit of trying too vigorously to get blackheads gone and rub my nose raw and it looks like i was attacked by something
Nimrod: I think its called ‘being young and female’…
Older ones here recognize its just your mates winding you up for being a wimp…
And having been ‘attacked’ by a ‘blackhead maniac’… yes, you can go too far… 🙁
I’d say she proably has the strength of about 1 Spiderman
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