Right through the wall!
(Wonder if there’s anyone here who used to go to Disclave…)
Tough wall, too… Jin’s home was obviously designed to be golem-resistant…
nah, that’s just the reach of Bud’s arms. If she had let go or otherwise just PUSHED her then May would have gone MUCH further, as it is Bud wants her close enough to continue the thrashing, that is until she got interrupted by the “I’m cold” statement.
You’re not the only one who’s been to Disclave 🙂
Hopefully Jin’s home repair is less painful than Paul’s remodel.
But she didn’t hit a sprinkler or anything! and she’s not the one dateing a police officer with a thing for handcuffs!
(Yes, yes i did go there.)
Yeah – that one was after my time.
And the sad thing was, they weren’t even members.
The “Right through the wall!” reference is to some years earlier.
When the hotel actually like having Disclave there.
Now, is this actually Jin, or is it Crispy?
Good question. Just who is in control of Jin’s body now and does she look like Jin or Crispy? Of course she may look like she’s made of clay still as well, thus the cold.
She’s not crispy so much as dark gray colored clay (maybe quaternary or a similar sedimentary type)
You know, it had never occurred to me that it might be someone other than Jin speaking. Just as well that May has a line on another one of those galaxy gadgets, if so.
Yay! reboot successful!
Okay, the BiOS is working, now we just need the external drive with the memory backup…..
What do you mean, ‘what memory backup?’
well at least she is not saying “where am I? who are you???”
“Are you my mum?”
EEEEEEK 😯 don’t do that! It’s one of the most unsettling Dr Who episodes EVER. Even the angels weren’t as scary as that kid.. * shiver*
About this ep. Of WS: Bud, Bud, Bud.. Get a hold of yourself. Remember the last time you lost your cool??? annihilation is ill advised here..
Brrrr…. yeah… I don’t know whether the Empty Child creeped me out more than the Weeping Angels, but it was a very close call.
Remember, though, that this incident was when The Doctor had one of his most triumphant moments….
Oh come on. Give me a day like this. Give me this one…
Everybody lives, Rose! Just this once, everybody lives!
Sometimes, just breaking even is a big victory.
Which episode? I am a Dr. Who n00b…
IIEEEEE, don’t say that! Even now, when I see a picture of someone in one of those old black gas masks, I flinch… God knows what would happen if I actually ran into a little kid wearing one, and I’m not interested in finding out. 🙁
txmystic: It’s the episode The Empty Child, first of a two-parter that also introduces Captain Jack.
Season 1, episodes 9 & 10, i think.
Jay-Em: The creepiest part of Blink was the ten seconds or so at the very end, after the story is over, that shows quick stills of what must be every stone or concrete angel in Cardiff…
Maybe her OS takes time to boot. You know how it is when you cold start a unit. It’s never fast enough.
So this is basically a cold boot.
It’s gotta be–she feels cold. And Bud was trying to boot May through the wall, until she was stopped cold. . . .
Reminds me of one of my more successful puns. A couple of us were walking across a college parking lot one winter day about ten years back, and we saw a well-trodden floppy disk on the snowy ground. I remarked that someone was obviously looking for a cold boot. . . .
SoWhyMe: nah, for that she would have to be ‘switched off’ first … but I think golems are a BIT more complex than PCs… 🙂
It’s more like a firmware upgrade. Have to reboot to apply, which takes forever, and even then you’re left wondering what else it broke when it fixed this problem.
Weren’t we supposed to get a really intense cliffhanger today?
Oh this qualifies as a cliffhanger. We have the what does she look like, is she Jin anymore, and how can she feel cold. That is allot of angst laden thinking for the weekend to me. I am still betting on Alan being a key component to a full Jin reboot, but I am a romantic at heart.
somebody go find this guy that strip where Jin complains to Alan about his cold feet.
Shoot, I forgot about that one, Nice catch 🙂
If you look down, somewhere you’ll find where i said
Yup – that’s Jin all right.
Yup – that’s Jin all right.
That would be this strip http://wapsisquare.com/comic/frozentoes/ which showed that while she was invulnerable to damage she could still feel painful stimuli.
🙂 🙂 better is the one where she had really cols hands so she put them *right in* the fire to warm them up… 😛
I hate cliffhangers… well, actually the extra waiting they precede. My automatic cliffhanger detection response at the end of this strip was “DAMNIT!!”
Dammit, Jin, your mom’s a mad scientist, not a doctor!
Wouldn’t that be “Dammit, May….” ?
Aargh, never mind dear, time for my nap….
Paul, you’re breaking my heart with this little arcette, but I’m glad Jin isn’t just a little green lump of clay…
The GGs are nothing if not passionate. Brandi had this reaction when she thought Shelly had sent Bud into the demon realm for good…
This one also is relevant (one day prior to above)…
The Chimera was created from emotion. Specifically, the Lanthians tried to capture the raw and broken emotions of the girls so they could control it.
I suppose it stands then the the GG’s carry a lot of that emotion after they were split.
My own favourite reaction like that – Emily has just discovered that two years of her life – including her junior and senior years and her acceptance to Harvard – have been erased by an incompetent angel’s mislocation of some Heavenly files…
Yes, they don’t seem to be keen on waiting for the full answer before acting.
Hopefully Jin wanted a door there anyway.
Wow. Kind of in love with Bud here right now. Got to love that extreme reaction.
I’ve always loved Bud. 🙂 This just makes her better.
Meh, to me she just being stupid. Why the hell didn’t she get Monica involved in this? Are Maya and Bud both drunk, still?
If Bud really cared about Jin (and isn’t drunk), why did she let Maya get away with not answering her questions about experimenting on Jin?
eschmenk: hmm, has your repair tech ever explained in full detail what was wrong with your stuff, and your brain heard ..
“your ***** had ***** **** in the *****, so I **** the ***** with ***** ****, so that ****** could *****, so its now faster – that will be $100 please :)”
thats why…. 🙂
Monica is a nice person, but not an expert on golems. Brandi should be there, though.
The artifact isn’t a golem. We don’t know what all Monica knew about it, but she knew enough to be cautious. She also knew that Maya tended to make mistakes. She could hopefully at least ask intelligent questions and help Maya think things through.
I would agree with what you said about Brandi if she had remained the way she seemed to be in the calendar machine arc, but she didn’t. Since then, she’s been turned into an airhead who has shown no interest in helping Jin.
One more thing. Jin is intelligent and she went to Monica for help. There were no signs that she even talked to her mother about it. There are probably reasons why she did that. I don’t think Bud should be ignoring Jin’s choice.
But still, why would Bud slam Maya into a wall and say “Wrong answer” when Maja finally gave her a good answer after it was OK for Maja to not answer Bud’s questions while they were still at Maja’s house? If questioning Maya back then wasn’t working, why wouldn’t she have gotten help?
We are talking about the same Monica who had Shelly hold the artifact shortly after learning of it, sending her on an 80K year exile, aren’t we? The same Monica who just reached out and tried to grab it from Bud without a second thought? That careful and cautious Monica?
^ Still, Sowhyme, you can hardly blame Monica for that first one–why would she have any inkling that the device would to that to Shelly. I mean, I rarely worry too much about odd things that I pick up sending one of my friends off to never-never land if they hold it. Maybe I should start?
“Wonder of wonders, miracle of miracles . . . “
I guess if you want to celebrate Jin’s recovery with some rooftop fiddle-playing, go ahead, but remember we aren’t sure if she recovered yet.
Oh, Bud. I love you so much.
She gets so violent when her friends get hurt.
S’a good thing May’s just as tough as Bud…
I know right?
This scene is revealing much more about May than Bud. May could shut Strawberry down with a word, literally. But instead she values how far she has come, to the point of taking the abuse from her unthinking fury.
A dangerous balance. At what point is Bud’s free will less important than accomplishing Jin’s recovery?
Certainly giving old Ike Asimov a run for his money.
I don’t particularly think Jin is hurt. She was just deactivated. I think it’s just an intermediate step to make it safe to fix her.
So if Jin is deactivated…
…she was never the one who was cold all this time.
Well, I think she became un-deactivated somehow and that probably isn’t good, but I don’t know how it’s bad yet. What I meant was that I don’t think she had shown signs of being hurt at the time Bud was reacting.
I think Maya meant to turn her into clay, fix her that way, then reactivate her. I think that was really the normal way of doing it. Remember that Tepoz was in his clay form when Monica found him and it didn’t hurt him.
We knew Jin was okay. But Bud didn’t.
That’s what I meant.
Yup – that’s Jin.
OR, it’s the little girl that was vaporized by the plasma wall… now that she’s been Golemized, she doesn’t feel that amount of heat anymore… voila’… she’s “cold” now… that could be Crispy talking right now, with one of those comments like May did when she first got back to this dimension (“i can smell dirt”)
You just knew that Bud was gonna react without listening. She has always been the emotional/romantic of the GG’s. (Of course that is not counting the above mentioned time that Brandi took the mantel when she thought Bud was lost to the Demon Dimension. But that was her motherly instincts in overdrive.)
Oh God! What a cliffhanger!! Relief with unknown!!!
yknow the thing which will annoy people the most is being kept out of loops/not being told things.
If May had explained this all to Bud before they even started Bud would have been expecting it.
But no … secrets again.
I wonder if it is too dangerous for a Golem to know how it works itself. Even Tepoz doesn’t know much about himself in that respect.
Still May herself is a Golem now which sort of kills that theory but well, she created the Golems also which might mean it wouldn’t be as dangerous for her to know about herself…or she erased some of her memory on somethings.
It’s likely that May didn’t fully explain to Bud what she was going to do because Bud would have not understood accurtely what was going to happen, so would have tried to either stop it, or question May indefinitely. Just a hunch…
I am betting it was more the way my tech friends will do something and not even think that the rest of us have no idea what they are doing or the reaction that will occur from it. It is a short of professional over-site.
Yeah. After a while you start just doing it, because you know that it would take too long to get a non-techie-type up to speed on what and why.
Kinda like how when a friend and i were coming home from an SF convention and i forgot i was still wearing a button i’d bought.
I was standing at the cash register in a cafeteria-type place we’d stopped to eat at, and i realised that the cashier was staring at my button, reading it, then looking up at me in a puzzled manner.
I said “It’s a computer joke. It would take more time and effort to explain it than either one of us would want to put into it.”
Shift to the left
Shift to the right
Byte byte byte!
Or maybe it was just so obvious to her that she didn’t realize that Bud didn’t already know.
Yeah. That happens, too.
Paula, I think Tepoz didn’t know how to create a golem, but he knew how to work with them once they were created. IIRC, he was the person who gave the GGGs their personalities back.
The whole week it’s been bugging me that Bud and Maya didn’t involve Monica in this. After all, it’s Monica that Jin went to for help and it’s Monica who knew enough to look for the artifact. She would have been more likely to ask the right questions of Maya. It’s also been bugging me that Bud went from being all worried about doing it to “Hell, why not?”
In consideration of friendship, perhaps Monica should have been included. But really, anything Monica knows that can control golems she learned from May. I can’t think of anything where Mon would be expected to be better at this than May herself.
Has Bud mentioned to May that the banshee-like “warning program” Monica saw when she first touched the Relic looked like Jin?
That could prove to be rather important.
I agree that Monica would not know much about golems, but Monica might know things about the device that Maya didn’t know. She at least knew there were reasons to be cautious about it, even before Bud found it. Monica also knew that Maya tended to make mistakes, so she would hopefully make sure that Maya thought things through before hand.
The best is Venkman’s answer in Ghostbusters to: “What exactly are you doing?”
Or the Doctor’s standard answer (in the original series) to almost any question from a companion: “I’ll explain later.”
I prefer “its timey-whimey, stringy wingy…. stuff :/”
Uhm… Mai is crunched against a wall and doesn’t even seem to feel the pain?
What is she made of?
Have I missed the information that she is a golem herself?
Yes, she is.
I can’t even begin to think of where the reference is but it was explained one time that May offered the Lanthians the secret of how to make a golem and then offered herself as a test subject.
She wanted to become a golem so she could destroy the Calendar Machine but the Lanthians still had the recipe for making more golems and made the Chimera.
It would appear Maya has a bad habit of not thinking through the possible consequences of her actions. She created the Calendar Machine to help Jin, she wound up giving enormous power to a group of murderous tyrants. She developed Golem technology to get the CM out of their hands, and while that succeeded, she gave them the means by doing so to create the Chimera. She attempted to destroy the CM, and put the galaxy in an endlessly repeating time loop. Hopefully thousands of thousands of years in the Demon Realm taught her she needs to look at the Big Picture before doing something…
You mean May is The Fisherman’s Wife and the flounder, both?
Did anyone check where May was sticking the device? I bet you Jin comes back with a mega boob job!
Looked to me like it was way up in the brain stem…
Based on May’s posture, wouldn’t the opening have been near Jin’s sternum (or golem-equivalent)? …and, now that I reflect for a moment, that’d put Wolf in the pink 🙂
But, no matter where it goes it, where it ends depends on how far up it’s pushed. It looked like her arms were going pretty deep and at a good upwards (anterior) angle.
Detailed innards of wall drawn = result of kitchen remodeling gone wrong, Paul?
This is why I love Bud, so many parallels between her temper and mine lol
*smacks Bud upside the head* No! Don’t hit the tech support, wait until tech-support explains fully! Bad Golem! Bad!
Silver C.- And then they raise the hourly rate. Bad Bud! Down Girl.
May looks different today, maybe on purpose…she looks much younger, sadder, and not at all crazed.
We’re getting her only in profile, not full face. For some people, that can make a considerable difference in their appearance.
I’ll go with the not-crazed and sadder. The “younger” look may be because of the other two.
Jin: Did i fall asleep?
For a little while.
If that was the case I just hope she is not Alpha.
Not Alpha. Sierra, maybe.
I know it is not the season for it yet, but I can’t help but to sing at the glorious situation!
Everybody join in!
I have a little golem
I made her out of clay
And when she’s dry and ready
With golem I shall play
Oh golem golem golem
I made her out of clay
And when she’s dry and ready
With golem I shall play
She has a lovely body
With legs so short and thin
And when she goes so buggi
She drools and threatens to blow the world up!
My golem’s always playful
She loves to dance and spin
A happy game with golem
Come play now, let’s begin!
That’s a nice riff on “The Dreidel Song” but the scansion on that last line in the last verse is all bolluxed to Hades.
Damnit, next-to-last verse…
She’ll blow the world up on a whim
(Just a suggestion)
Oof! Looks like more remodeling is in order.
All that talk about Tepoz.
Dammit, I miss Tepoz!
Heh.. I guess Paul uses Bud to project&release some of his anger ofer the buggered job the contractor did on his kitchen.
I know I would if I could draw like him…
Oh… she was clay?
Given how Monica, Shelly, and Doubt have looked the same way in the past (Doubt at will, the former 2 post-hangover), I just assumed the gray skin thing was more artistic symbolism.
Dammit Paul. Stop using your own art style to throw curve balls. ^_^
It was more the way her hair had the same texture as her skin. But, yes, I know what you mean.
You know, in that last panel, the expression on Bud’s face could be a combination of hearing Jin AND realizing what she just did to May.
She didn’t do anything to Maya. Maya is indestructible. She did something to Jin’s walls, though. 😆
If Bud was reacting to anything to do with Maya, it was the worried look on Maya’s face when she heard Jin. It’s impossible to tell if that was what Maya was actually reacting to, though.
That re-boot job was totally exhausting…and May just hit a wall! 😛
If Jin is made out of clay and she’s a golem; does that make her a Muddian android?
I wonder if the “cold” thing could mean Jin has gotten her wish and is now human again with human’s senses, frailties, and life span? It could be the treatment was more than simply fixing Jin’s time-shift problems.
What a horrible thought…….
Not to her. She would love to live a life with Alan and then when it ends they are together forevermore.
To show how dense I am, I just realized that ‘crispy’ may be why Jin has cold issues…
That look on their face isin’t one of any joy but surprise and a little scared. Wonder if the one saying she was cold was from a little girl that was flame-grafted onto the chimera.
An American Sphinx In Dublin I still think they’re going to wind up going to Ireland.
Now why would a sphinx go anywhere as dangerous as Dublin?
Ummm. 0145 EDT and no strip…
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