i’ll bet that All the shapeshifter get their energy from the rotation of the galaxy, just like the Golem Girls get theirs, the only real difference is that the energy collection and shapeshifting is done via organic components, versus the mechanical ones the GG’s have, since they’re made of “clay”. all Mayhuel did was learn how to convert the organic to mechanical in her formula for making Golems… and also the reason the GG’s are more powerful than any organic being, simple because the organic material would get damaged by the energy throughput well before a mechanical system would for the same energy flow-rate.
You’re assuming that her bear-shape is not hollow. In fact, her hollow fist might resonate like a drum, much the same way that a wrestling ring is designed to amplify the impact-sound of someone slamming their body down upon it.
If Devyn is five feet high, that bear must stand eight or nine feet at the shoulder. I’d say it weighs over a ton. Probably well over.
That’s a lot of mass to pack in a teenage girl.
Of course, Wapsi-world is magic. Maybe they don’t have conservation of mass. Still, that’s a big shift.
You don’t know anything. Safety pins are the larval form of coat hangers. And coat hangers, in case you don’t know, transform to bicycles. Ask any bicycle shop about found bicycles.
You know, I was going to complain about Nadette’s tie losing its color, but then I realized she’s ‘nekkid’! She’s probably losing control and not holding form. Impressive, Paul, most impressive!
I never got why everyone just assumed Ursamorphs weren’t predators. Bears may be omnivorous, but they’re still apex predators at the very tip top of the food chains they’re part of. As to Nadette’s mass, I think this is her true form. Like Phix, Shelly or even Atsalli, I think she can dump excess mass into the same between place folks go when they *POIT*. The two Sphinxes start at around 1000 lbs and can add or subtract mass and body parts according to their whims at the moment. In full Siren mode, Atsalli is around eight feet tall with a thirty foot wingspan. Like the Sphinxes, she can dump body mass and subtract or alter limbs to an extent. Paul has said she has hollow bones, so like most birds she’s probably lighter than she looks. In her “fully human” form she probably under 80 lbs. Looking at Nadette, she looks to be at the upper end of a Kodiak Grizzly, so probably in the 1200 to 1800 lb range. A 1200 bear will stand around 6 ft at the shoulder and 12 to 14 feet tall standing on two legs.
Yeah, but big browns are rangier than than most big herbivores under all that fur. The biggest Kodiak to date was an 1600 lb bear that was 14 feet from nose to tail with paws the size skillets.
This one looks a lot more than 6 ft at the shoulder. Even allowing that the girls are both fairly short, Nadette is around twice their height… call her 10 ft to the shoulder.
Oh, and according to Wikipedia, the biggest Kodiak was an estimated 2400 lb. But if the proportions in the comic are accurate, Nadette is bigger than that. A *lot* bigger.
Yeah, if she can make the earth move hard enough to throw both girls three feet in the air, she must weigh about 10,000 tons. Maybe she borrows mass as she needs it. Without limit?
It’s not irony, nor pots and kettles, it’s someone who has done something she doesn’t want a friend to have to experience
Maybe she ‘grizzly’ed out and mauled someone, she knows how bad that feels and she knows how it will destroy someone like Sali to seriously hurt, or even kill, someone
Anyone else consider the implications of Atsali spotting a very large bear apparently attacking two of her friends (and her girlfriend apparently not in sight)? I can see this easily turning into Atsali v Nadette with everyone else getting in the way (and potentially hurt) in their attempts to calm them down.
Nah. Granted, Atsali isn’t the most perceptive person around, but she *is* aware that her girlfriend is an ursamorph, even if she maybe hasn’t seen her in full bear form before.
The extra mass comes from dark matter. That’s why it can’t be found, it’s all hidden in the shapeshifters…. or in hyperspace/subspace. Either work really. Protective mommabear gets much rawr!
nope. Dark Matter has already been revealed as being the material that makes up the Akashic Records., back when ?Devyn and ?Abbie were talking about how us Muggles are still clueless about what it is so that’s why we call it “dark” matter.
i’d wager on not much, because she has strong emotional ties to Atsali, therefore her Seer powers don’t work too well on things that concern Atsali.
or conversely, she saw what happened to Abbie and Devyn, and Atsali being remorseful afterwards… but she DIDN’T see that it was HERSELF that caused the injuries!!! and here we go with a self-fulfilling prophesy: she is apparently in denial about her OWN Predat tendencies, and thus ignores them in her normal everyday life, and in her visions, so when she sees Atsali getting violent at the jai-lai match, and then possibly here (but maybe misses the intervening stuff, so she thinks it’s connected) and in her befrazzlement about not being able to convince anyone about Atsali possibly hurting anyone, she loses more and more control, and finally snaps!, thus injuring Abbie and Devyn… and everyone else rushes over in sympathy/ gawking/ first aid, etc, etc… Atsali is ashamed that they got hurt at all, and thus the Prophesy has been fulfilled!
I don’t think she was worried about herself. I remember her threatening to knock Atsali down. She could probably have done it, if she could move fast enough to hit her.
Well as we all said she is a bear.
She’sa not a bare! She’sa wearing a neck-tie!
Wokka wokka!
Damn, she makes a big bear. I know I shouldn’t ask, but… where does the mass come from?
Chicago.
Naaa that’s where cubs come from! ;P
There’s a reason why the Sears Tower has its particular shape…
Hyperspace.
Same place it went to when she turned herself into a skinsuit.
…or a hat
E=mC^2
i’ll bet that All the shapeshifter get their energy from the rotation of the galaxy, just like the Golem Girls get theirs, the only real difference is that the energy collection and shapeshifting is done via organic components, versus the mechanical ones the GG’s have, since they’re made of “clay”. all Mayhuel did was learn how to convert the organic to mechanical in her formula for making Golems… and also the reason the GG’s are more powerful than any organic being, simple because the organic material would get damaged by the energy throughput well before a mechanical system would for the same energy flow-rate.
You’re assuming that her bear-shape is not hollow. In fact, her hollow fist might resonate like a drum, much the same way that a wrestling ring is designed to amplify the impact-sound of someone slamming their body down upon it.
If it was hollow, her fist wouldn’t have the mass to displace 2 girls.
It could be a mater of density. The non-fuzzy form is probably densely packed.
If Devyn is five feet high, that bear must stand eight or nine feet at the shoulder. I’d say it weighs over a ton. Probably well over.
That’s a lot of mass to pack in a teenage girl.
Of course, Wapsi-world is magic. Maybe they don’t have conservation of mass. Still, that’s a big shift.
Now? Now you ask where the mass come from and goes? After Sphinx’s, Dietzel and Atsali in her different forms; now you want us to explain this?
Well, I know where the mass comes from
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The same place those odd socks disappear to in the dryer. 😎
Hm, it’s always my even socks that disappear…
I think you’ve got an ‘off by one’ error.
I’ve brought up the subject of mass before.
Incidentally, if you take the dryer (or more likely, the washer) apart, you’ll find the socks. They get sucked behind the tub.
No, missing socks are the larval form of wire coat hangers. Haven’t you ever noticed that socks disappear, and you’ve always got an extra coat hanger?
You don’t know anything. Safety pins are the larval form of coat hangers. And coat hangers, in case you don’t know, transform to bicycles. Ask any bicycle shop about found bicycles.
Socks are the larval form of plastic grocery bags.
I minored in Botany. I know all about these things.
You know, I was going to complain about Nadette’s tie losing its color, but then I realized she’s ‘nekkid’! She’s probably losing control and not holding form. Impressive, Paul, most impressive!
Yeah, check the thumbnails turning into claws.
No, she started wearing clothes so Sali can slip a hand underneath and cop a feel
That’s for dates. Wearing clothes for school would be indecent… Or something… And now I’m confused…
Boy howdy, she’s just one heck of a mama grizzly, you betcha!
I never got why everyone just assumed Ursamorphs weren’t predators. Bears may be omnivorous, but they’re still apex predators at the very tip top of the food chains they’re part of. As to Nadette’s mass, I think this is her true form. Like Phix, Shelly or even Atsalli, I think she can dump excess mass into the same between place folks go when they *POIT*. The two Sphinxes start at around 1000 lbs and can add or subtract mass and body parts according to their whims at the moment. In full Siren mode, Atsalli is around eight feet tall with a thirty foot wingspan. Like the Sphinxes, she can dump body mass and subtract or alter limbs to an extent. Paul has said she has hollow bones, so like most birds she’s probably lighter than she looks. In her “fully human” form she probably under 80 lbs. Looking at Nadette, she looks to be at the upper end of a Kodiak Grizzly, so probably in the 1200 to 1800 lb range. A 1200 bear will stand around 6 ft at the shoulder and 12 to 14 feet tall standing on two legs.
1200 to 1800 strikes me as shy. I know a Hereford bull can easily run 2000, and Nadette is way bigger than any bull I’ve ever seen.
Yeah, but big browns are rangier than than most big herbivores under all that fur. The biggest Kodiak to date was an 1600 lb bear that was 14 feet from nose to tail with paws the size skillets.
This one looks a lot more than 6 ft at the shoulder. Even allowing that the girls are both fairly short, Nadette is around twice their height… call her 10 ft to the shoulder.
Oh, and according to Wikipedia, the biggest Kodiak was an estimated 2400 lb. But if the proportions in the comic are accurate, Nadette is bigger than that. A *lot* bigger.
Yeah, if she can make the earth move hard enough to throw both girls three feet in the air, she must weigh about 10,000 tons. Maybe she borrows mass as she needs it. Without limit?
It’s not as if matter is being created, it’s only being borrowed. She’ll put it back later.
Serious case of pot calling the kettle black!
I suspect that Nadette has been where she sees Atsali going.
Pot/Kettle was my first thought as well, but Michael’s response has me wondering. Even so… Irony abounds.
It’s not irony, nor pots and kettles, it’s someone who has done something she doesn’t want a friend to have to experience
Maybe she ‘grizzly’ed out and mauled someone, she knows how bad that feels and she knows how it will destroy someone like Sali to seriously hurt, or even kill, someone
Oh, you meant the last panel
Well, i don’t think we’ve ever been told why Berdine and Nadette transferred to Gryphon High…
The mass comes from however it worked in Animorphs. Something about hyperspace? I don’t remember the details.
Uh oh.
Anyone else consider the implications of Atsali spotting a very large bear apparently attacking two of her friends (and her girlfriend apparently not in sight)? I can see this easily turning into Atsali v Nadette with everyone else getting in the way (and potentially hurt) in their attempts to calm them down.
Nah. Granted, Atsali isn’t the most perceptive person around, but she *is* aware that her girlfriend is an ursamorph, even if she maybe hasn’t seen her in full bear form before.
Paras still go emotion first, logic second. That’s a well-documented response to imminent danger.
Meanwhile I’m here laughing my ass off at the expression on their faces in panel one. Too much!! XD
Nadette, your irony’s showing 🙂
The extra mass comes from dark matter. That’s why it can’t be found, it’s all hidden in the shapeshifters…. or in hyperspace/subspace. Either work really. Protective mommabear gets much rawr!
nope. Dark Matter has already been revealed as being the material that makes up the Akashic Records., back when ?Devyn and ?Abbie were talking about how us Muggles are still clueless about what it is so that’s why we call it “dark” matter.
Still applies, though.
Another thought: Nadette is a seer. What has she seen?
i’d wager on not much, because she has strong emotional ties to Atsali, therefore her Seer powers don’t work too well on things that concern Atsali.
or conversely, she saw what happened to Abbie and Devyn, and Atsali being remorseful afterwards… but she DIDN’T see that it was HERSELF that caused the injuries!!! and here we go with a self-fulfilling prophesy: she is apparently in denial about her OWN Predat tendencies, and thus ignores them in her normal everyday life, and in her visions, so when she sees Atsali getting violent at the jai-lai match, and then possibly here (but maybe misses the intervening stuff, so she thinks it’s connected) and in her befrazzlement about not being able to convince anyone about Atsali possibly hurting anyone, she loses more and more control, and finally snaps!, thus injuring Abbie and Devyn… and everyone else rushes over in sympathy/ gawking/ first aid, etc, etc… Atsali is ashamed that they got hurt at all, and thus the Prophesy has been fulfilled!
Better yet, what has she done in the past?
I don’t think she was worried about herself. I remember her threatening to knock Atsali down. She could probably have done it, if she could move fast enough to hit her.
She’s just a bear for punishment…
attacking your friends in anger while worrying your girlfriend will do something similar…way to go Nadette
Oh, come on. That wasn’t an attack. Just a little jostle to get their attention.
Sound effect oughta be “GIBBS!”
Yep. When a bear attacks you, they’re usually quite clear about it… most of your guts will be hanging out, for starters…
OK, did not see that coming….
Oh hey, Bear-Nadette. :3
Is that bear….crying? Or is that just some weird coloring artifact in the second panel?
Believe it’s just and error in the inking
Also, you cannot tell me that this wasn’t entirely on purpose.
Well, she certainly hit the bear basics of that conversation…
Nadette is the scariest Care Bear ever. :-p
On the matter of where the mass comes from…..
Hammerspace.
The same place all those heros keep their HUGE swords, guns etc.
Page is here ….. Okay I come back on Monday
I just LOVE the (cartoon) expressions on Devyn and Abbey’s faces!
Wow, this is the first time she has shown us her non-humanoid bear form.
And Girl, u are about to hurt those 2, so might wanna dial it down a notch..
Then again,maybe we see their true forms now as well for once 🙂
She’s not gonna hurt them.
That’s just the equivalent of the 2 x 4 you carry under the wagon seat when you’re driving a mule team.
OK, now we have to hook her up with Doc Nickel.
When a supposed “bevie” can turn the into a giant grizzly at will the distinction between bevies and preds seems rather arbitrary.
And Nadette proves that bears are predators too. So, she’s worried that Atsali might hurt someone?