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by Paul Taylor on February 21, 2011 at 12:00 am
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  1. Cheesy1
    February 21, 2011, 12:01 am | # | Reply

    RESTRAINT!!!

    • Atomic
      February 21, 2011, 12:56 am | # | Reply

      Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it!

    • Paula
      February 21, 2011, 1:39 am | # | Reply

      your avatar goes so well with that word 😀
      i imagine him bouncing up and down and running around manically shouting it hehe ^^

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 4:40 am | #

        Sort of like this?
        http://wapsisquare.com/comic/eisu-guest-comic/

      • Alechsa
        February 21, 2011, 11:29 pm | #

        …Yes… that is total Restraint… dear God, Bud o.o

        Am aware that’s a guest comic, but Paul APPROVED IT. XD

    • Dusty668
      February 21, 2011, 4:36 am | # | Reply

      That certainly explains the cop trapping.

    • Eee
      February 21, 2011, 9:41 am | # | Reply

      Of course Bud’s got restraint. If she sneezes too hard the Earth goes boom, she’s HAD to learn to limit herself.

      She and Superman should get together and discuss how hard it is to keep it in human boundaries when you’re not…

      • DJenser
        November 19, 2011, 1:37 am | #

        Read “Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex” if you want a little insight into the practical difficulties of relationships for such individuals.

      • MidnightDStroyer
        June 8, 2017, 1:03 pm | #

        Yeah, someone with Bud’s power might be able to teach Shelly a few things about restraint. I think this guy could help her understand WHY self-restraint can be so important.

      • MidnightDStroyer
        June 8, 2017, 1:05 pm | #

        Yeah, someone with Bud’s power might be able to teach Shelly a few things about restraint. I think this guy could help her understand WHY self-restraint can be so important.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQabrSpKcJw

    • bmonk
      February 21, 2011, 12:03 pm | # | Reply

      REATRAINT! and PATIENCE! — oh, and I need them RIGHT NOW!!!

  2. Jabberwonky
    February 21, 2011, 12:06 am | # | Reply

    To all the nay-sayers this weekend – How do you not love Shelly?

    • SoWhyMe
      February 21, 2011, 12:27 am | # | Reply

      Simple. Shelly’s just one step away from being a mindless killer. She’s easily swayed and prone to violence. Heck, she was convinced to stab her best friend in the head based on some stuff she didn’t really fully accept.

      At Tina’s, what if the being she was about to hit so hard it would kill a normal human had BEEN a normal human, and what if Monica had not shown up? Someone would have been decapitated, and she would be awaiting trial. Also, she enjoyed inflicting pain as a kid. She still likes to think about, and mentally relive doing what she did back then. No real thought to the consequences of an errant arrow. No real empathy. She got officer tight buns through collusion, trickery and explosives. Like the head stabbing, it worked out ok, but still.

      Then there is all this pumping up. Not a likable quality in a female except to a few into such a fetish. If I met her I would not want to hang out with again. Way too much of a loose cannon. Oddly, the main redeeming quality I see is that she is deathly afraid of spiders. She seems to be a loyal friend, but the head stabbing thing makes me wonder.

      • Fairportfan
        February 21, 2011, 12:30 am | #

        Let’s just say that i think you are wrong on almost every point, and let it go at that.

        In your favour, you’re not so supercilious as Nimrod.

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 12:35 am | #

        Fair enough.

      • txmystic
        February 21, 2011, 12:41 am | #

        First of all, she’s actually looking to improve herself by showing a desire for restraint, so give her some credit.

        As for the head stabbing, how many comics showed how much the prospect tortued her? You think she ENJOYED that shit? No, she was beside herself so much that her conscience had to get out of the boiler room and have a chat with her about it. It was a tremendous leap of faith and courage that was necessary to end the calendar machine loops. But you just look at it on the surface as a “head stabbing”…jeers, SWM. Jeeeeeeeeers!

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 2:15 am | #

        I scoff at your jeers you silly person. I unclog my nose in your general direction! Your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elderberrys!

      • txmystic
        February 21, 2011, 9:52 am | #

        I told him we already got wan!

        SNICKER!

      • Cherish
        February 21, 2011, 5:02 pm | #

        Hand over the elderberries and no one will get hurt.

      • Artemisia
        February 21, 2011, 12:45 am | #

        hmm… so let me see…
        Your idea of a good female character is one that is afraid of everything, has a rosey past, doesn’t do physical excercise other than say dance, yoga, or aerobics, and is incapable of defending oneself or others… I have to say I’m offended at the comment about the idea of “attractiveness to people with fetishes” sexual appeal is not what creates a good character it makes a good Mary Sue and anyways a girl lifting weights is NOT a bad thing. And you WISH you could hit like a girl
        The head stabby thing was to save the world. Good of the many or good of the one? I’d have to choose the world especially if things were telling me it wouldn’t kill the one.

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 1:42 am | #

        Not at all. What Shelly was about to do to Nudge was NOT self defense. What she did with the arrows as a kid was NOT self defense. Yoga, arobics and self defense lessons etc is fine and I have no problem with women defending themselves. Still, most aren’t going to bulk up to do it, so that’s not really an issue of defense. For many it’s not even going to be possible. Not to mention steriods are usually involved and that creates havoc with female chemistry. It’s bad all the way around in the real world.

        I think bulking up is more of a fetish where females are concerned, but it’s also for males, just to a lesser extent. And guys or girls who are sexually attracted to such women for that reason are engaged in the same sort of fetish. Women attracted (and there are not all that many) to males outlandishly bulked up are into a fetish of their own. I’m talking about lust here, not love.

        So you would just buy, without any real proof, that stabbing your best friend in the head would be ok? And that doing so will save the world? I would need more proof. Besides the world was not going to end, just reset. Nor did they have to do it that particular day.

        Why would I wish I could hit like a girl? Not all that much effect. My mother had a GF/lover who was prone to violence (and weight lifting). One night, at dinner the GF lunged right across the table at my mom and beat the living hell out of her. She did a lot of damage because she hit like a man not a girl. I’ve seen girl fights, but that night I saw the difference.

      • Jay-Em
        February 21, 2011, 1:09 am | #

        (..)THAT! Iwant THAT!!(..) Somehow it’s really funny how Shelly blurts that out.

        YAY! for “Restraint”

        Could I get some of that too?

        Apparently Shelly realizes very well what her flaws are, but lacks the mental “tools’ to do something with it.

        Her bonding with Bud (i.e. “letting Bud in”) seems to be the start of some interesting character development.

      • nerf-dweller
        February 21, 2011, 1:14 am | #

        Shelly isn’t as one dimension as you portray her. Shelly displayed a huge amount of reluctance to use the knife key on Monica up to the last moment. Even with Bud threatening to wipe the pavement with Shelly. It was only after Jin’s Doubt said that Monica couldn’t be killed did Shelly finally become convinced that she would not be hurting Monica by stabbing in the head with the knife key.

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 1:45 am | #

        Good points.

      • Jay-Em
        February 21, 2011, 1:30 am | #

        Well, strong women are a taste to be acquired.
        I am sorry to say, but I resent the “fetish’ -bit in Your comment.
        I have always been surrounded by strong women in my family, even truly muscled ones. There is, however quite the difference between the airhead body-building soccer-mom-types, and those that just like to be physically active.

        Shelly’s weight training has, IMHO, also to do with getting her mind off her angsts.
        Keeping busy, exhausting oneself, is a good way to divert oneself from pondering too deep.

        I understand You do not like women like Shelly. Fair enough. To each his own.

        Look at it this way: There’s room for improvement in her, and that makes for an interesting character.

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 1:56 am | #

        Keep in mind, I don’t hate her or her character. I just don’t much like her either. Even if she were a male, I would not want to be his friend or even be around him. I do think her character is interesting nonetheless. And I’m talking about women who bulk up, not just get stronger.

        Also keep in mind I hate and fear all women with a passion unriviled in the 20th or 21st century, so I have a just a miniscule bit of a teensy weensy bias. I’m working on it however. Is there an app. for that?

      • Jay-Em
        February 21, 2011, 2:44 am | #

        (..)Also keep in mind I hate and fear all women with a passion unriviled in the 20th or 21st century(..)

        That little tid-bit hasn’t escaped my attention, to say the least.

        There is, sadly no App, or a Patch to fix that.

        To be totally serious: Trust issues are not easily rectified, and past experiences You have told about every now&then do explain a lot.

        However, blaming one type of woman for all that is wrong, is counter-productive and leads to a lot of unneccesary unhappiness.

        People ,despite similar interests and ways of living ,are all very different. It takes time to see those differences, because many people wear masks and “costumes”to hide themselves.

        I am truly sorry that Your outlook became so Mysochynistic. You’ll miss a lot of the fun and friendship women can offer.

      • Paula
        February 21, 2011, 1:46 am | #

        Yea she can be a tad overreactive with her temper/strength.
        The head-stabby thing i wouldnt worry about as i personally believe there was more in that page of writing that we didnt get to see.
        Remember how shelly was 100% against it then after reading what brandi had written was 99.9% for it. (lil sis had to convince her of the last 0.1%)
        I dont know what was written but shelly would no way have hurt monica without something major being told.

        (and ‘if you stab her the world will be fine’ doesnt cut it :p even ‘if you stab her she will survive and the world will be fine’ wouldnt)

      • ProleBoi
        February 21, 2011, 11:19 pm | #

        @SoWhyMe: You make Shelly’s physique and character sound more like Lakshmi’s, whom Owen really does seem to fetishize. But Shelly, aside from being more fully fleshed out in terms of motivations and issues, isn’t the stereotype that Lakshmi is. Where Lakshmi is gargantuan and dainty, Shelly is built and agressive. A hot-headed monster? Hardly. In need of restraint? Definitely.

        With a tear in her eye while she says “there’ll be a special place in hell” for her, it hardly sounded like she was going all werewolf on M, or that it wasn’t something she hadn’t thoroughly thought out and agonized over. Just because we didn’t see it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

      • SoWhyMe
        February 22, 2011, 12:08 am | #

        Lakshmi is a large but gentle creature with no history of violence (of which we are aware).

        The fact Shelly said that at the end showed she had some lingering doubt what she was about to do would not kill Monica, yet she did it anyway. Tearful and all that, still she did it.

      • ProleBoi
        February 22, 2011, 12:21 am | #

        I think that’s resolve, not malice.

      • SoWhyMe
        February 22, 2011, 1:07 am | #

        Resolve, malice, Monica could have been just as dead as a result so the motivation hardly matters.

  3. SoWhyMe
    February 21, 2011, 12:07 am | # | Reply

    Actually Shelly, you NEED that.
    Is there an app. for that?

    • Danzier
      February 21, 2011, 7:24 am | # | Reply

      No, but there’s a cover for it… 😀 http://www.amazon.com/DLO-HybridShell-Non-Slip-Silicone-touch/dp/B00117H0AO

      (I just googled it, no affiliations or whatever)

  4. Fairportfan
    February 21, 2011, 12:08 am | # | Reply

    I see the buzz cut is still there, though some of her hair has grown down over it.

    • SoWhyMe
      February 21, 2011, 12:32 am | # | Reply

      Or one of their stops during that day was to the hair salon.

      • Jabberwonky
        February 21, 2011, 3:58 am | #

        I’d have liked to see the back and forth of trying to talk Bud into the chair…

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 4:45 am | #

        Can’t cut it, but they could have styled it. I think.

      • Eee
        February 21, 2011, 9:35 am | #

        IIRC, Bud’s hair is the texture of straw and she hates that she can’t do much with it. Jin should teach her whatever trick it is that she uses to manipulate her own hair…

  5. Hanineal
    February 21, 2011, 12:10 am | # | Reply

    ‘ve got that. I’ve got oodles of restraint. Oh, wait. maybe that’s just old age.

    • StJason
      February 22, 2011, 12:50 am | # | Reply

      We go well together, then. I have the restraint of oodles!

      err…

  6. Fairportfan
    February 21, 2011, 12:10 am | # | Reply

    “Restraint”.

    uh huh

    This from the girl who created a wrong-way meteor and then pulled that “crazy girl” routine on the cops who came to visit…

    • ShadOBabe
      February 21, 2011, 12:40 am | # | Reply

      Heh, the crazy girl bit was just good acting. XD
      Bud actually does have a lot of restraint normally (considering she could practically tear up a neighborhood by sneezing).

      • Jay-Em
        February 21, 2011, 1:47 am | #

        True! You gotta love a girl that can pull a “Crazy Sally”with the help of Moon-Boots and a crazy-Bomber to prevent a situation from escalating.
        She truly thinks on her feet.

        (Aaand ,I am cranky..It’s -7C with a nasty eastern wind, and ALL “mad bombers”are sold-out..My ears almost froze off while cycling to work, despite the Thinsulate beanie…)

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 3:14 am | #

        -7C and you cycled to work?

      • Jay-Em
        February 21, 2011, 3:41 am | #

        Yup, -7 and about 8km. Not that bad….buuuut the stiff, icy-cold eastern-wind (our weather overhere makes me constantly sympathize with the wapsi-crew) made me regret it for a bit.
        Why I do that to myself, You ask? Well, my employer pays me $70.- a month extra for taking the bike instead of car or bus.

        As a true frugal Dutchie, I like the extra money,and am willing to suffer a bit for that 😆

        Aaand going by car means, inevitably, getting stuck in traffic. And 8km suddenly takes 30 min. of pure frustration instead of just 20min and a cold pair of ears by bicycle. 😛

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 4:03 am | #

        OK, well, next time at least wear a stocking cap under the thinsulate.

      • Jabberwonky
        February 21, 2011, 4:17 am | #

        Jay-Em, these actions have invalidated all of your well thought out arguments over the past months. You are obviously a crazy man.

      • Fairportfan
        February 21, 2011, 10:56 am | #

        I used to use a bike for general transportation in weather like that here in Atlanta.

        Of course, i was forty years younger, quite a bit less overweight, and in better physical condition generally.

        I also wore a hoodie sweatshirt, my Navy pea coat and furry-lined leather gloves…

      • Danzier
        February 21, 2011, 7:04 am | #

        Yeeeaaaahhhh… -7C = 19.5F. Yeah, that’s kinda chilly for bike riding, but somewhere around average good-day winter temps up here. (Worst temp this winter in my neighborhood was -34F (actual, not wind chill) = -36.66 C)

        Makes those steryotypical bomber hats with the earflaps WAY less stupid. And a good stocking cap (woven beanie or toboggen) beats the thinsulate any day. UnderArmor’s pretty good though.

      • Jay-Em
        February 21, 2011, 3:30 pm | #

        I didn’t thought them stupid, the rest of the world did. I even got one while in the service, but it’s completely worn.
        Over here we call them “Gekke Henkie Pet” transl: “Crazy Hank Hat”
        Buuut to my utter dismay, they are suddenly the thing to wear for hipsters , and they snatched them up like…ehhhrm..Mad-Bombers.
        I think I am gonna order one from the good ‘ol Us of A. Plenty of web-shops that have the original Lynx Mad Bomber in stock. And most of the time I’ll have my US-orders in 3 to 4 days.

    • SoWhyMe
      February 21, 2011, 2:25 am | # | Reply

      Frankly I don’t see why Bud had to do anything special. It’s not like the cops would have thought she did anything to cause it. Nor would there be any proof of anything. Were I they, I would have gone to see Shelly and find out if she was on the prowl for a new BF first.

  7. Greg
    February 21, 2011, 12:11 am | # | Reply

    Bud is the total sweetheart of the group!

    • CarpeNoctem
      February 21, 2011, 12:52 am | # | Reply

      Bud has long been my favorite. Certainly the most controlled of the group, and IMHO, the least likely to abuse her powers, or to put it another way, the tightest bound of all the cannons in the strip.

      I’m not sure what I’d classify her as, though. I’m thinking Neutral Good, personally, although possibly Chaotic.

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 2:28 am | #

        No matter how you slice it, all 3 are ticking bombs. Really big bombs.

      • Danzier
        February 21, 2011, 7:12 am | #

        Characters that are not bombs are boring. Worse, they’re more trouble than they’re worth.

        Here’s a quote from my favorite writer, who says it way better than I can (yet): “Conflict is the engine that drives any novel, and if you try to write one without first making sure you have an engine, you’re not going to get far. Write out your conflict. (Or conflicts.) And don’t go for the big generalities. “Gerri versus men,” is a conflict, all right, but when you’re stuck on chapter five and you look at your notes for something that will help you get back on track, something along the lines of “Gerri’s hatred of her father drives her to take up with dependent men that she can then abandon, and the man she has now abandoned intends to kill her” might actually aim you in the right direction again.” — Holly Lisle, http://hollylisle.com/index.php/How-To-s/how-to-start-a-novel.html

      • Julie
        February 21, 2011, 8:34 am | #

        I wouldn’t call them really big bombs. They’re human sized…but with much larger payloads. 😛

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 10:47 am | #

        Breast size has nothing to do with it … oh wait …

        I see them as having a thermostellar bomb in your basement, primed and ready to go. Problem is it’s slowly leaking radiation and you have no idea how long. Worse yet you don’t know how much the electronic trigger has been affected and if, or when, it might suddenly set it off. Nor do you know what other factors might cause it to go off anyway, despite your best efforts, since you don’t really have a clue how it all works.

      • Fairportfan
        February 21, 2011, 11:05 am | #

        “Teach it … phenomonology, Doolittle.”

        (I’m also reminded of Sheckley’s blue-eyed bomb in the bathtub that says it plans to destroy the Universe next Tuesday.)

      • W.
        February 21, 2011, 11:46 am | #

        @ SoWhyMe Not bombs. More like weapons and not munitions that need disposal. Brandi and Bud don’t leak radiation and aren’t harmful to us just by existing. Jin might pose a problem, but Monica can always shut her or any of them down if they ultimately pose a danger to us. I don’t like referring to them as anything but people though, because they are even though they are no longer “human.”

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 1:07 pm | #

        Fine, a weapon. The radiation leak neeed not be harmfull to people to damage the electronics. But that’s a minor point. No analogy is going to be perfect.

        Monica can only shut them down if given enough warning. If one “goes off” it will be all over before she can even start to speak. Especially if she’s not there. The only safe thing to do is shut them down now. But, of course, that would not make much of a story. Still, if the world knew someone was keeping devices that could turn the earth to dust, would we tolerate them being around? Would you?

        I have a hard time seeing them as actual people. They have a matrix of memories and the ability to reason and seemingly show (and suffer from) emotions. A sufficiently advanced computing machine can do the same. Tina senses no soul or any such in them. Except for Jin, they are empty. To an actual human they seem to be indistinguishable from a human/person but that doesn’t make it so. This is also why I believe the Touring Test is highly flawed by only considering appearances to determine intelligence, but that’s another discussion.

      • W.
        February 21, 2011, 3:46 pm | #

        ‘If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.’ The GGG are people for all intents and purposes,(with SS#s even) though no longer ‘human/ organic.’ You just can’t go shutting them off because they could potentially cause problems, well you could, but it would be morally reprehensible. The GGG aren’t HAL 2000s or Skynet. They aren’t actively seeking the destruction of humanity, in fact they seem to be becoming more ‘human’ as the series progresses. Machine or alien consciousness will eventually necessitate a redefinition of ‘personhood.’ Would you be in favor of putting Superman in a Krptonite prison? I for one would worry less about the GGGs living next door than about the ICBMs I grew up fearing would someday fall.

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 5:30 pm | #

        A toy duck can do all those things as well. The ICBMs would be more akin to the girls in their dormant state. Plus, people are able to shut them down at will. At worst, one could go off creating an underground explosion. It would be bad, but the earth would still be here. Even after an all out exchange, the earth would still be here. We might not, but it would. Life will start again.

        Superman, powerful as he is, cannot flatten the sun or pulverize the solar syatem with a gesture of uncontrolled rage. Also we know kryptonite will take him down. The GGGs have no such known weakness. More to the point, Superman has no history of destroying much of the world. Yes, they are trying not to do anything like that again, but we don’t know all that much about them or what could set them off. For all we know there is s “logic bomb” somewhere in their matrix that could cause them to go off under the right circumstances. To me, they are simply too dangerous to run around freely. It’s all very nice to try and make them more human, but it’s 3 girls vs the entire population of the earth. Given that choice, the 3 girls gotta be shut down. At least until a way can be figured out to separate them from all that power. This is what May should be working on.

      • ProleBoi
        February 21, 2011, 11:35 pm | #

        @SoWhyMe: You only consider the Touring Test highly flawed because they don’t ask about the cities you want to visit.

  8. jwhouk
    February 21, 2011, 12:11 am | # | Reply

    Restraints? I’ve got a set of handcuffs…

    • Fairportfan
      February 21, 2011, 12:31 am | # | Reply

      I was thinking s strait jacket, maybe.

    • NOTDilbert
      February 21, 2011, 1:43 am | # | Reply

      I’m sure her boyfriend has access to several pair….

      • Fairportfan
        February 21, 2011, 2:16 am | #

        Actually, if you recall, i believe that she used them on him in their first encounter…

      • NOTDilbert
        February 22, 2011, 12:24 am | #

        Yep. (Sigh) Young lust… to be 100 lbs lighter and 30 years younger….

  9. Bucc-i
    February 21, 2011, 1:22 am | # | Reply

    Is Shelly girl-crushing again…

    • Jay-Em
      February 21, 2011, 3:13 am | # | Reply

      Nah. I doubt it. She hasn’t done the body-twisty bit yet. She tends to go all girly when crushing on someone…

  10. Paula
    February 21, 2011, 1:38 am | # | Reply

    Im a girl but dagnammit Bud is georgous in ALL those pannels!

    • SoWhyMe
      February 21, 2011, 2:30 am | # | Reply

      To me, Bud seems the plainest of all the characters, looks-wise.

    • Jabberwonky
      February 21, 2011, 3:48 am | # | Reply

      One of the sexiest women I’ve ever known was ‘plain’. There was nothing special about her face, her body or her hair. But something about her was fantastically sexy.
      And it wasn’t just me. One night she needed to talk to someone and we were in a bar while she vented about her husband. (my lot in life, it seems) I went to the bathroom, and when I came back out a gentleman quickly vacated my bar stool and moved on. When I asked her about it she laughed and said he was seeing if she was ‘okay’.
      It’s not always about looks.
      And, need I remind you.
      http://wapsisquare.com/comic/all-was-peachy/
      Panel three.

    • Julie
      February 21, 2011, 8:35 am | # | Reply

      I’m right there with you sister! She looks amazing!

  11. NOTDilbert
    February 21, 2011, 1:41 am | # | Reply

    Reminds me of “Oh Lord, please grant me Patience – but give it to me NOW!”

    • Paula
      February 21, 2011, 1:48 am | # | Reply

      *giggles*

      dont think ive heard that one before 😀

    • SoWhyMe
      February 21, 2011, 3:27 am | # | Reply

      Serenity now. Serenity Now!

      • GEEKONCALL
        February 21, 2011, 1:47 pm | #

        OK, OK!! Here it is
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_%28film%29

        http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/10/04/serenity_050928034532063_wideweb__300x500,1.jpg

        http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/universal/serenity/

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 2:29 pm | #

        Oh great, a movie made from that piece of crap SF series.

      • Fairportfan
        February 21, 2011, 3:33 pm | #

        scoff scoff

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 5:04 pm | #

        Apparently I’m not the only one who thinks that. At the box-office (world wide), the movie didn’t even make back what it cost, let alone any profit. And that was after a ton of hype. Needless to say there is no sequel in the works. It got critical acclaim, but that’e the movie snobs, so it doesn’t mean much. The movie just didn’t have any real plot, from the synopsis I read.

      • Jabberwonky
        February 21, 2011, 8:49 pm | #

        Just my IMHO, but it felt more like tying up loose ends from the series than the start of a franchise.

      • illiad
        February 22, 2011, 7:01 am | #

        yeah, but it was a **fan** movie, made for those that were seriously into that stuff.. If you dont like it, why bother talking .. a bit like marmite.. 🙂

      • SoWhyMe
        February 22, 2011, 3:12 pm | #

        That’s my point. They SERIOUSLY underestimated their fan base to begin with, plus they believed their own hype and thought it would go well beyond that base and make a mint for everyone. Also, I love to gloat about the failures of fan-boy snobs like that.

      • illiad
        February 23, 2011, 3:17 am | #

        well your god maybe $$$$, or did you just not check?? 🙂
        I think ‘fan acclaim’ is worth much more… (you’re not his accountant , are you??)

        Serenity won film of the year awards from Film 2005 and FilmFocus.
        It also won IGN Film’s Best Sci-Fi, Best Story and Best Trailer awards and was runner up for the Overall Best Movie.
        It also won IGN Film’s Best Sci-Fi, Best Story and Best Trailer awards and was runner up for the Overall Best Movie.[4] It also won the Nebula Award for Best Script for 2005,
        the 7th annual ‘User Tomato Awards’ for best Sci-Fi movie of 2005 at Rotten Tomatoes,
        the 2006 viewers choice Spacey Award for favorite movie,
        the 2006 Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation, Long Form and the 2006 Prometheus Special Award, and the 2006 Prometheus Special Award….. Not much of a failure..

      • illiad
        February 23, 2011, 3:34 am | #

        oops, bad C&P.. :O

      • SoWhyMe
        February 23, 2011, 4:08 am | #

        Tell that to the people trying to earn a living by making movies. Also the backers who made nothing or lost their shirts. Fan acclaim and a dollar will buy you a small cup of coffee. Wanting to make a profit does not make your god money. Everyone except the already wealthy have to make a living. Trust me, only the few zelots in the project did it “for the fans.” Everyone else did it to make money. Without profit no one makes any more movies. If you are only making movies for the fans, you are just masturbating, not creating. They made it to stroke their own egos, period. In the process they talked a lot of suckers into letting them do it. Much like “Waterworld.” That’s what all those awards are in the end, ego stroking mechanisms. Prizes given to people into that stuff by people into that stuff. It’s a closed, daisy chain kinda loop.

      • illiad
        February 24, 2011, 5:06 am | #

        yeesh, such negativity… Disappointed director/producer much??? 🙂 hey man, even Joss has had many disappointments, was asked to look at the X-men script, rewrote it fully, and then it was thrown out, they just wanted ‘jokes’ added… you should read his biography.. 🙂

        meanwhile just get on with it, ignore the critics, get the work done, be positive!! 🙂 🙂

  12. Fauxlosopher
    February 21, 2011, 1:44 am | # | Reply

    I wanna see Bud just leap over the table and arm-lock Shelly. “Well? Now you’re restrained.”

    • Jay-Em
      February 21, 2011, 2:32 am | # | Reply

      Sortof already happened. Bud also cheerfully added something like : “Should I dislocate your shoulder to prove You are not super-strong?” (cannot directly find the page I meant..)

      • Fauxlosopher
        February 21, 2011, 7:56 am | #

        Yeah, I remember that one, but still. Great physical pun regardless of past out-of-context use. Perhaps even a callback to that time.

      • txmystic
        February 21, 2011, 10:05 am | #

        Here y’go…

      • Kessog
        February 21, 2011, 5:20 pm | #

        I love the ‘quit being so emo’ part!

  13. Alechsa
    February 21, 2011, 1:56 am | # | Reply

    Bud should be pleased… Shelly wants to learn restraint before she becomes something like the Chimera…

    By the way… is she a Golem now? Just sayin’. She died and was resurrected into a being of immense strength…

    • SoWhyMe
      February 21, 2011, 3:21 am | # | Reply

      Naw. To be a golem you have first have to make an ash of yourself, then have them mixed with clay and “other things” in some sort of mystical process. Besides, she wasn’t resurrected so much as revived. She also may have had the unusual strength from birth, or so I gathered from the story.

      • Jay-Em
        February 21, 2011, 3:45 am | #

        That ^

        Shelly is “just very strong”(still cannot find the crush-the-coffee-pot after math strips..grrr )

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 3:56 am | #

        http://wapsisquare.com/comic/too-late/

      • Jay-Em
        February 21, 2011, 4:50 am | #

        DAGNABBIT!! How do You guys find stuff like that so quickly??? “d You have a database running on keywords??? 😮

        statement–“find”–Shelly+dislocate …bzzzz..#click# page so and so….

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 5:02 am | #

        I wish. I just happened to remember about where that occured in the sequence of the overall story and went to the archive to around that point and looked for clues in the titles.

        Though I am doing something like that by saving the links to the web pages that have key comics in the series as they come up here. The saved name has the date in it. Just added this one to it as well.

      • txmystic
        February 21, 2011, 10:11 am | #

        Well, dang! I went ahead and put a link in the comment above, but technically you beat me to it…

      • Jabberwonky
        February 21, 2011, 8:17 am | #

        I remember that week because everyday had a great facial expression from Tina.
        And with Shelly, Bud, and Tina as my favorite characters, it was a great week.

      • Jabberwonky
        February 21, 2011, 3:53 am | #

        This one?
        http://wapsisquare.com/comic/squish-it/

        Squish it! SQUISH IT!
        Sorry, I just like saying that in a silly voice…

      • Jabberwonky
        February 21, 2011, 3:55 am | #

        Why would you crush-the-coffee-pot during Social Studies?

      • SoWhyMe
        February 21, 2011, 4:30 am | #

        Ah, so you had Social Studies after Math?

      • Jay-Em
        February 21, 2011, 4:59 am | #

        Heh, and the grammar-gremlin inserted another inappropriate space to befuddle readers… 😛

      • Jabberwonky
        February 21, 2011, 8:13 am | #

        Perzactly…

      • Jabberwonky
        February 21, 2011, 4:02 am | #

        Her strength could have arisen from being the youngest, and only girl, with seven older brothers. It’s a defense mechanism.

      • bmonk
        February 21, 2011, 12:09 pm | #

        We have plenty of people around here with experience at making an ash of themselves. Not so many who mix with the clay and the rest of the ritual afterwards. Mostly I just slink off in shame…

  14. Jim
    February 21, 2011, 6:43 am | # | Reply

    Hahahaha!

    BTW, Bud’s looking really gorgeous, today.

    • Kessog
      February 21, 2011, 5:30 pm | # | Reply

      Bud looks good with her hair up like Monica looks good with her hair down. Gotta work with whatcha gots!

  15. Danzier
    February 21, 2011, 7:17 am | # | Reply

    Hmm, a restaurant with booths, French wallpaper, and stand-up ketchup bottles on the tables–but worth wearing a dress to. This feels dangerous.

    • Jabberwonky
      February 21, 2011, 8:19 am | # | Reply

      Another example of how much I like Paul’s backgrounds. Sometimes I tune into those and wish he’d put out a book of them.

    • MerchManDan
      February 21, 2011, 12:07 pm | # | Reply

      Dangerous…or delicious??

    • SoWhyMe
      February 21, 2011, 2:16 pm | # | Reply

      Yeah, I was thinking “they went all the way home and changed then all the way back out to dinner?” Then I realized, poit, poit, poit and it’s done. Still, how fancy a restaurant can it be with what looks to be backless bench seats at an open booth-type table? Seems like a step down from the Waffle House.

      • Jay-Em
        February 21, 2011, 3:12 pm | #

        Yeah.. *hands You yellow post-it* and now off to work!

  16. The Old Wolf
    February 21, 2011, 7:38 am | # | Reply

    Whether clay or flesh, every one of these girls has a past. Just like us. What I see as important in this strip is not what their history is, but what they are doing right now, today, to confront it. In one way or another, each of them is wrestling with their day-to-day choices and asking herself, “Does this serve me? Is this moving me forward?” In the end, that’s all any of us can do.

    As for Jin, the odd-girl-out, she’s more or less stuck in her head right now, but she’s got a huge support system behind her, which is what the action part of this arc seems to be about. Jin is the only one of the three who knew what the Lanthan priests were doing, and sacrificed herself to try to save the other two; that’s gotta hurt. I suspect and hope that the team will help her work through the pain of her past and find her heart.

  17. ziggy78eog
    February 21, 2011, 8:05 am | # | Reply

    Ssssshhhhhhhhh, inside voice Shelly. If you want to learn restraint, start there.

    • Atomic
      February 21, 2011, 9:14 am | # | Reply

      … and savor the irony while you’re at it!

    • txmystic
      February 21, 2011, 10:15 am | # | Reply

      Yes, a nice dish of irony would go good with coffee after a meal…

  18. txmystic
    February 21, 2011, 10:16 am | # | Reply

    BUUUUD!!!! GIVE SOME RESTRAINT! I NEED IT NOOOOOW!!!

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!!!!!!!

    • Danzier
      February 21, 2011, 11:45 am | # | Reply

      We’re here for two things: restraint and irony–and guess which one we’re out of!

      • Fairportfan
        February 21, 2011, 3:34 pm | #

        Bubblegum?

      • txmystic
        February 21, 2011, 3:52 pm | #

        You’ve been outed as Rowdy Roddy Piper, my man…

      • txmystic
        February 21, 2011, 3:50 pm | #

        We’ve got one that can see!

  19. GEEKONCALL
    February 21, 2011, 2:21 pm | # | Reply

    This is Paul’s take on the old adage “What you can’t have, You want the Most!”

    Only funnier!

  20. Jay-Em
    February 21, 2011, 3:21 pm | # | Reply

    Bud suddenly looks very attractive and adult with her hair up, while Shelly looks like she found mommie’s lipstick somewhere..

    Hrmmm..adolescent..adolescent..adult..adult ADULT!! *blink* …waittaminute.. there’s a sublimal message here!!

  21. kramegame
    February 21, 2011, 4:08 pm | # | Reply

    I don’t know what bud is complaining about, her hair looks fine.
    also, i didn’t know where to jump into the Shelly conversation near the top, so i’m just going to list everything I know about Shelly and what I think about it:

    1. She is a Comanche, since Comanches basically incorporated warfare into their culture, violence, at least the desire for strength, is in her blood. Not necessarily a bad thing, but not something that should be ignored.
    2. Shelly had to stab Monica in the head to stop the calender machine from repeating, thus technically saving the world. Yes, she didn’t completely understand why she had to do it. However, she didn’t do it willingly. She might not have done it at all, had Jin’s doubt not interfered. Which means she would have given the world just to protect Monica. I think that’s a great trait and shows how loyal she can be.
    3. She had a horrible childhood. She was a proud Native American, in a white neighborhood in the Midwest. Not that i would know, but that doesn’t sound like a good mix. During Cowboys and Indians, she had to choose to submit to the other kids or to defend her heritage. She chose to defend her heritage. Yes she took off the suction cups, but if you were being picked on, and wanted to get your point across, wouldn’t you? i mean it’s not like she was sharpening them. Plus she was a kid, she was just playing, if she wanted to do bodily harm she could have just as easily fought them, stabbed them, tied them to a tree and lit it on fire, pushed them down a set of stairs, etc. (these are all things that kids age 5 to 15 have done to other kids)
    4. To add to this, she watched her mother get electrocuted in front of her, and couldn’t get help…
    I know what it’s like to lose a parent. I’m sure most of the people here have lost someone loved. but to watch them die in front of you is something you don’t forget. I’m sure feeling helpless is even worse. It can be traumatizing at a young age, and i’m not sure if i’m even completely over it. It obviously was for Shelly since she created CG, and tried to prevent anyone from getting too close to her.
    5. Because of her mother’s death she went on a spirit journey, to see if she could find herself among her grief. She ended up seeing Nudge, who lead her to Jin, who Shelly thought was Tochtli. That’s plot development. It also gave her hope and allowed her to get on with her life.
    6. Shelly likes to work out. It makes her feel better about herself. She didn’t know she was going way beyond average strength, she just continued to push her limits. There is nothing wrong with that. She assumed she was able to lift or move that much weight because she had been doing it for years. However, she isn’t looking to bulk up, or she would be huge by now. Outward appearances tell us that she is muscular, but not a body-builder.
    7. The newest and latest, she wants to show restraint. Good, she’s looking for self-improvement, which shows she’s not just some muscle head. She understands that her actions affect others, and wants to prevent the Nudge incident from happening again. This is something that Heather tried to teach her waaaay back when her and Shelly were hanging out, but didn’t exactly stick.

    All in all, i think Shelly is a good character, albeit a little misguided. She is maturing at a slower pace than the other characters, but we have to remember she started at a much younger mental age when we first saw her, which means that she has a lot more growing up to do. The fact that she is willing to learn is a huge step in the right direction.

    • Jay-Em
      February 21, 2011, 4:55 pm | # | Reply

      To me Your break-down of events : Totally, wholly SPOT-ON!

      One teensy detail: Shelly’s mother wasn’t electrocuted ,but “had an electric problem with her heart” parasympathetic nerve system not firing right I guess. Same thing killed my Mom on a fairly early age.

    • kingklash
      February 22, 2011, 1:46 pm | # | Reply

      A comment on point #3. You wouldn’t normally see Comanches up that way, which would have been extra hard when she did meet some kids from local tribes. I have had to rely on some unique measures back in the Bay Area days. But also, we weren’t the only Okie family there on the Gov’ment Job Relocation Program, we even ran into Ma’s cousins and an uncle or two out there. But we did have the occasional run-in about why didn’t we stay where we came from. As a Native American, and once a snotty little kid, I encourage my Cartoon Cousin to find new ways to channel her energies. That’s kinda the foundation of Martial Arts, isn’t it? Control, restraint, and knowing when to go into action.

      by the bye, I would like to see Shelly dressed up for a pow-wow, if she has the outfit.

      • bmonk
        February 22, 2011, 3:46 pm | #

        What sort of outfit, for which style of dance? Fancy Shawl? Jingle dress?

  22. Jack jack
    April 16, 2011, 7:44 pm | # | Reply

    Bud and Shelly are a good pairing, both have different ways of “living in the now”(ugh), like when someone tells you to do that… how do you?

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